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No one is in this offense, line is bad, but even when there is time the routes are garbage.

League knows it.

Brady = just squat.

Tep needs to buy Brady some help Monday morning. Personel aside, biggest issue is clueless playcalling outside the red zone.

Maybe so, but what upset him Sunday was the lack of adjustment. He recognized the Eagles had the playbook... He wanted us to double move,” Rhule said Monday. “They were sitting on some routes. He wanted us to double move, stutter and go.” Brady should have seen it first and adjusted, he did not. Sam's last pick was a terrible throw, but it doesn't help when the CB knows exactly where the ball is going vs biting on a comeback while Robby blows past on a double.

The NFL caught up to Brady PDQ. He's just not a good play caller yet, repetitive and predictable in the long game, doesn't seem to adjust at all. He's been indirectly called out by several opponents for this, and likely what set Robbie off on Sunday.

Player personell being what it is, the quickest way to get right is improved scheme and play calling. I know they won't but I'd like to see a consultant brought on to help Brady. He isn't ready to be a coordinator.

He's basically retired, doubt he's been keeping in shape.

Um password or 1234 or...Crap I forgot, it's autofill.

Sorry guys, no idea why I picked that scab, I think I was trying to praise the current leadership, and went sideways. But my user name is just laziness when the huddle re-spawned it was the default

Yes and all but one of those was under Jerry who refused to pay staff, let every single coordinator walk, and underpaid for replacements. We had a poo owner, if you choose to blame his lieutenants fine.

I don't agree Marty was poo (there have been and will be much worse). I agree he wasn't the best. Don't know how I got there anyway, what I said originally, it's nice we have an owner committed to buy the best in the business.

Yep, and Marty was there for all of it outside the expansion boost. I know you hate the guy and that's fair, but if you rank him amongst panthers GMs he's currently 1st in team success.

Going to miss the 99...

Honestly don't bother, I don't disagree, it's not about market size so much as relevance (sorry I used that term). And from a media perspective the panthers were on the bottom of the shoe until 2002, an Marty hand some hand in changing that.

Touche

Yes now, hurney joined the Panthers in 98.

Just committed in the games thread how nice it is to have a committed owner with big pockets. I expect the panthers to have the best front office and staff in the league with Tep.

I know your thoughts on Hurney, but he did play a big hand in making an under funded small market franchise relevant. No excuses but he was about as competent as his skill set allowed, Tep even acknowledged that.. The issue was always Jerry being tight and controlling. And that included the GM position.

Yep an wrote a big fat check to seal the deal. Can't discount his desire to win, and spending power. You can't buy championships, but money makes it easier. See pretty much every perennial contender ever.

Love him or hate him, the big difference is Tep, big money makes a difference, why Rhule, Brady and Fit are here. Can't spend over the cap, but can out spend everyone on staff and facility's. So far seems he doesn't seem to meddle, hopefully he's our Kraft.

I think those days are fading, every time I hear the panthers mentioned now days it's competent, young talented. Maybe not hyped. But clearly well thought of

I keep reading about what happens to Sam in a shootout. He's built for just that, his issues don't stem from placement, or necessarily reads, as much as trusting his recievers and throwing it up vs wasting a play. He also has a short memory and trusts his arm, Same trait superstars get praised for when their playmakers make the catch. I know it was coledge, he was a 19 year old frosh, but here's sam in a shootout when he has playmakers.

No argument from me, and pleasantly we'll get to see. Sans rock solid kicker, and roided up (allegedly) line I see semelaritys between 03 and this team.

Totally agree, just wish Jake realized he couldn't Lazer into the flats like he thought he could. Broke my heart to many times with the pick six...