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No...but things similarly to this are not surprising lately. Texans had 2 and 3 last draft and it looks to be paying off and a couple teams had 2 picks in the first round. If im the bears i keep them. Getting the 2 top overall players on your roster is a rich that is extremely rare.

Lafell the best receiver on this team right now?? Lol Come on now....stop it. This the over exaggeration that i keep seeing a lot. Lafell was never that guy, if you think route running, speed, and catching is a problem now you shouldnt dare bring up lafells now. Good lord relax lol

This a tough lol but imma go with taking somewhere other than Bryce. I truly feel like we would be in a better position right now and if the rumors are true Reich didnt want him like that then you gotta take some heat away from him.

He had Byron bell and a converted DT as his starting OTs at one point. Just for more context Cams rookie year was absolute anomaly no one saw coming. Yes he had weapons around him but Cam made that possible, Olsen was struggling in chicago and hurney got him for a 3rd, smitty was coming off a down year for number of reasons and it was questions if he was still the same guy. Dwill and Stewart were not premiere backs anymore and cam ended up finishing the season second in rushing because the rbs couldnt carry load like that. Shockey was on his way out the league. Offensive line was good not great especially with byron bell starting. Cam did a lot and made that offense better than what it is was projected. Folks need to stop acting like he was carried or something because thats far from it. Trust me i remember that season very well, let's not get it out of context.

If you really think young is good enough and the rest of the team isnt then you truly are in another reality that cant be reached.

His arm is weak for nfl standards, i cant think off the top of my head who has a weaker arm in the league now. Its not necessarily about the throwing distance cuz they can all throw it far, its the velocity and release of the throws which is important depending on the type of throw you are trying to make.

I agree with most of what you said. My issue with the last sentence is that we already gave so much just to get bryce, i dont want to go down path of firing coaches, trading away good players just to make things easier for him cuz i don't think he is worth that yet. He hasn't even shown us a glimpse of superstar capability with what he has currently. You get rid of everything valuable just for him and he still shows inability its just a deeper hole to dig out of. We are not in old times, you dont have to hitch your wagon that long anymore before you cut bait especially if the team is competing.

From the pre draft till now I just understand what people were seeing, they gotta be bama saban fans or maybe they just like that kid that much personally to where they want him to succeed. I just think as franchise you have to make franchise changes decisions based off more than that. You really gotta convince yourself that the uncoachable flaws aint that big of deal to take this kind of player number 1. I remember analyst saying a lot of teams were glad not to have no. 1 pick because they didnt want this kinda decision.

I still remember that game and where i was at the time. Its a channel on youtube that post a lot of old games of the cam era panthers that a watch sometimes. You really forget the incredible throws he use to make.

http://www.texanstalk.com/threads/week-4-pittsburgh-steelers-vs-houston-texans.117133/post-3369458 Texans fans already feeling sorry for us.

Im surprised no grade for throckmorton. I think he has played well.

Lmaoo.....he probably already setting things in motion

I said the other day for as much heat as hurney gets its crazy we are having to trade all the good players he drafted when he came back just to improve this team. And fitt is doing a good job of fumbling every chance.

Stroud should be in the mvp conversation right now, or he will be soon at the rate he is going. He already is running away with offensive ROY, the texans winning is just icing on cake. The fact that he is literally been one of the best qbs in the league over 4 weeks with that roster and no mistake football puts him in mvp conversation.

"Drop a qb in"

Bryce is closer to being a college football analysis than a all pro Qb right now. That's just the truth. He has to figure it out for himself if he wants to play in the league a long time. I dont think its about the coaches and talent like some people say. Sorry, im just not buying it. Some All time great college players didnt amount to anything in the league. If you are convinced a guy doesn't have to prove himself in the pros based off what he did in college then you are really lost.

Im going to say this, bryce is not a bust yet and they shouldn't give up on him. BUT.....they would be fools not to bring in competition next year threw trade or the draft at this rate. I dont care how much you have invested in him, there are other players on the roster who need to develop and put in the time and work to win. It may not be the case right now, but when other players start getting frustrated you will start hearing things about who is holding the team back, questioning coaching staff, and that's when it gets volatile. We see it all the time. Making bryce compete for his job is not a bad thing and honestly it should have been done from the start. They bottled up andy dalton threw pre season and camp because they wanted to make sure he didn't look systematically better which ended up happening when he had to play. P.S. i know some people not gonna take this post seriously because it ridiculous blah, blah, blah. But this is coming from the same person who never bought the hype on this staff or bryce young. I said from the very beginning it needs to be a wait and see thing. So go ahead...just know you heard it here first.

Oh boy....comments like this, im started to think the panthers got suckered. No other team was that high on this kid.

Stroud has been sacked 11 times and hit even more.

Lets be real, he had glaring flaws when he was drafted. The hope was that he would eventually improve them and be the best tackle in the draft because he had the highest ceiling. Im not panicking on him because i do think he can be a really good guard in the league. The problem is finding another tackle if he doesn't improve.

Boy the comments are hilarious, i love going back and checking receipts. Always fun.

And we still have to play the colts and texans this season...oh boy.

I would take Wilson right now over bryce, i would take a lot of guys over bryce.

Im more excited about the hornets right now than this poo show.