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Plain and simple.. If Purdy, Dak, or Tua are with the Panthers are we competing for a playoff right now?? Now If We had Mahomes, Allen, Jackson or Rodger’s are we competing for a division title?? And that was Cam’s point..

That’s the problem then.. Ppl need to change their mindset then.. Game Managers win and have a lot of success as well and it’s okay to be a game manager.. It’s okay not to be able to win in every situation..

Why is Cam getting so much hate from talking heads for calling certain QBS game managers??? Why is it still seen as a Scarlett letter when reality most of the league QBs are game managers??

I’ll give you 2 passes today and 1 scramble that gave me a little hope.. 1. the anticipation and leading the Wr on the screen to Marsette.. 2. The pass to Chark was a rope back shoulder at the perfect spot add in a complete down pour and sloppy ball.. Pause.. 3. The scramble up the middle breaking 2 tackles and angling his way for a 1st down.. Showed that he has wiggle and some pocket awareness.. Especially considering it was a slippery field and he isn’t a great athlete.. JMO..

Derrick Brown stop the run himself..

That’s how you dunk on them !! lol

Hahahaha good catch!!!

I’m sorry this is BS.. This is the ultimate team sport 1 guy shouldn’t get all the credit plain and simple.. And this whole “what I thought of the team before is all that matters” is stupid argument.. Just because you thought this player sucked before doesn’t change the fact that “this year” he got better… I think Stroud is a amazing and have thought that for years now… And I’m a UM fan.. But he isn’t doing this alone.. Coaches change the culture not players.. Demco brought the San Fran defense to Houston and now it’s giving up nothing on the ground and jump almost 12 spots in rankings.. Does that matter??

At this point I don’t give a fug.. That ship has sailed he is here now.. Got to either make it work or move on.. And reality check they aren’t moving on any time soon.. You can keep bitching about this for the next 2 years I refuse to do that..

What did that have to do with what actually happened.. Even your breakdown was BS.. Because nobody thought we had a number 1 WR like Smitty before this season.. We didn’t have 2 1,000 yard backs or 2 TE the level of Shockey or Olsen… The Oline wasn’t coming into the season injured and Gross and Kali are way better then Ickey and Bosaman

Since you want to make caveat because this is a dumb point.. Because the original statement was Cam had a better supporting cast his rookie season.. That’s what happened no matter what happens the rest of the season this will be a fact.. This isn’t a prediction this fact..

Cool but Cam not having to carry a offense is a big plus.. Whether you admit it or not.. Having a number 1 Wr a good Oline, 2 TE and 2 1,000 yard backs was a asset.. Love Cam above others but he didn’t make Smitty or Shockey, then Oline or Dwill and Stew.. They were Pro bowlers before he got here.. BY has none of this..

Completely agree.. Just saying I feel both will be good.. And both have been good for a long time.. This isn’t the 1 year wonder or off the field bust situation.. Both were good prospects and should be really good pros..

If it doesn’t matter why the fug are you replying?? plain and simple Cam was great but he did have a better situation.. Its really not debatable..

Oh Dwill and Stew were way better Pass blockers as well..

Who pays you for your draft analysis??? Please post 1 draft analysts (a real one please) that said BY was a 2nd round pick… Dont worry I’ll wait..

1. Point is he did.. This isn’t predictions Smitty was a top number 1 wr for years after Cam’s rookie season.. Cam literally had a number 1 wr threat BY doesn’t.. Thelien is a 2 or 3 on teams with more talent.. Are you arguing what you thought would happen or what actually happened?? 2. Omg thank you for making another point.. We actually had a OC who knew how to use the talent he had (which was a lot).. BY OC and HC trying to run their offenses. Chud made one for Cam .. Good point.. Cam had better coaching and a better scheme made for him by those coaches.. 3. Ickey hasn’t played guard yet so that’s a opinion.. But what your trying to neglect saying is Cam had a way better Oline then BY.. Yea I agree.. 4. Agree to disagree..

Okay Dwill and Stew compare to Sanders Chubba and Blacksheer(who they don’t use).. Didn’t fumble ran hard better pass catchers faster (both were big play threats) and again we had 2 of them.. Stew as a power back in this offense would feast and be exactly what we need now..

Good point.. Thanks for admitting it..

Okay let’s do this.. 1. Smitty way better then Thelien.. Smitty the year before Cam played with Pickles Clausen not Cousin.. Trying to compare numbers the year of the worst offense in history is disingenuous and wild to make a point from.. Not even a question Lafell easily start on this team now.. Better route runner better hands and more reliable then anybody but Thelien.. 2. Shockey and Olsen were better are better then Hurst, Tremble and Thomas combined.. Even A “past his prime Shockey” was a better blocker route runner and overall talent than any TE on the roster and Olsen please!! Smh 3. Moton maybe the only Olinemen to start on that Oline.. We weren’t questioning pass blocking or scheme with them.. They were healthy consistent and experienced… None of that can be said about our Oline now.. What else do have to debunked??

Omg!!! Are you serious??? Damm you hate BY that much to try and make this sound good in your head?? Really.. I refuse to debate any of that BS you just typed.. All those player would start on this team right now… Wow it’s gone this far..

At some point even stalkers realize when ppl are actively avoiding and ignoring their existence… lol Seriously if a person has replied and conversed with everybody but you … There is a reason for it..

No retort just the word of the day.. lol got it!! Please tell me you think Cam carried Smitty, Olsen, Shockey, Stew, Dwill, Lafell, Kali, Gross, Wharton and Hangarner .. Please make that opinion known..

He didn’t have to as a rookie.. But please go ahead act like having Smitty Olsen , Shockey and that 2011 surrounding cast was terrible.. lol