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No and if we make two assumptions... #1 There also won't be practice Sunday. Don't know this for sure since the practice schedule after the Jets games isn't released, but it seems like a reasonable assumption. #2 Starters will get zero or minimum work in the game tomorrow. That translates to the starters only getting three days of work this week - Monday, Wednesday, Thursday. That seems crazy minimal for the middle of camp. One of those practices was also cut short and ended in gassers.

I'm not immune to hope but the Panther's have conditioned me to be skeptical. It felt a little fresh today hearing some positive reports from the joint practice. Let's mash them in the mouth Saturday when game conditions are simulated.

Bryce is going to shut a lot of people up one way or another.

Their video is 37 minutes and ours is only 30 minutes, already beating us in time of possession. /s

JC and DJ going at it is fun to watch.

Yeah, I replied to your first post and eventually caught your additional replies later after I had already posted this. Cheers

I have no issue getting behind Bryce when he deserves it. Here's one of my posts after the Green Bay game last year.

Well to be fair those are just the arguments that normal fanbases have unless you clearly have an answer at the position.

Cherry picking one statistic to support your argument without context isn't good faith debate. For example, I could cherry pick bad throw %, of which Bryce was the worst in the league by a mile at 21.5%. But that would lack the context of pressure, wr quality, play calling, quality of opponent and many other context pieces that may help explain why he threw so many poor passes. Cherry picking interception percentage ignores how lucky he may have been with dropped interceptions, which was quite lucky by the way. It was almost extraordinary how many interceptions he threw that were between the numbers and dropped. It also ignores weather, injuries, quality of opponent, hell maybe the receiver fell or didn't fall for another guy. The point being a single stat in a vacuum does nothing but make your argument look feeble. Look I get it, you like Bryce or at least you're a glass half full guy. Anyone else with a shred of doubt is a hater or cynic, always dismissing the possibility that we're just Panthers fans commenting on what we've observed. I would be thrilled for Bryce to blow up and make us relevant this year. I wouldn't give one single shitz about the crowd in here that would rush to tell me how wrong I was. I'm capable of observing what's happened and judging just that. I want to see quality football. I linger on this board all day because I'm obsessed with the Panthers not because I'm obsessed with shitting on Bryce.

**In this space team management actually believed removing CMC and DJ Moore, while keeping Burns was the right move** MY GOD

Once again your points are spot on, very well written. I'd like to expand your post if I may. Under Tepper the concert of moves has been such that there has always been more than one possibility for the biggest failure. 2019 - Rivera caught the heat and lost his job. A shadow form of Cam and/or Hurney could have been more to blame. Tepper probably just wanted to get his guy anyway. 2020 - Hurn dog eats it this year even though Rhule and the beginning of QB purgatory could have more to blame. Tepper probably wanted his own GM as well though. Although this was a raw deal for Fitts as he inherits Rhule. 2021/2022 - Rhule holds the bag for this era. Next up is Fitts. Most argued both should have been fired here. A carousel of washed QBs ending with a bonanza shitshow fire sale that wasn't actually a fire sale tainted the future as well. Maybe if we had committed and shipped Burns for two firsts our whole story might be different right now. 2023 - After being allowed to pick both his coach and QB Fitts shitz the bed in the most magnificent way finally creating the first "clean the house" situation. Fitts and Reich both bite the dust along with many staff. But maybe, just maybe, the problem was Bryce. 2024 - Our "full reset" is actually more like a soft reset since Morgan's qualifications are questionable at best and a complete Fitts understudy at worst. We still have Bryce and that still brings plenty of questions. We added a complete unknown quantity at coach as well. So if, or should I say...when the Panthers stink it up again in 2024 where is the blame going to land? Bryce, Morgan, Canales? Take your pick! The beauty of Tepper's management style is you can never truly isolate the problem. EDIT: Any combination of the above can be true at the same time.

I think it's all a nothing burger. Dallas scored the most points in the NFL last season. Unless the Cowboys know something the rest of the league doesn't, I can't see them letting him walk.

What's the threshold for the amount reps that you think would make a difference? Whatever number you come up with is how many he should get IMO. Bryce was terrible last season, he should be out there earning his keep just like anyone else on the team who is being dismissed as a bum or camp fodder.

I think you are spot on. I don't even know where this QB whisperer garbage came from. Baker statistically was on par with his early Cleveland production last year and only threw for 147 yards in 9-0 win against us with the division and playoffs on the line. Not making a statement on Canales other than I don't think his resume is head coach quality. Doesn't mean he won't be, to me it just means it's yet another gamble.

We'd have to accidentally get trapped into a situation like this. Canales has already told us there is no QB competition in Carolina. Imagine not having to compete for the job of "NFL QB", it's really insane if you think about it.

Who brought their kid to work?

Jordan in the last dance....whew...they won titles though!

Our defense looking strong. Our defense is practicing against our offense. Our offense is running gassers.

I think Canales is here on a BY9 mandate. Saying there is no QB competition seems out of place for a first year head coach given how bad the team was last year. Dan and Dave have both said on every occasion they want competition up and down the roster. I can't think of any reason he would handcuff himself to Bryce unless he agreed to it for the job.

The Bucs beat us twice last year by a combined 12 points including one of the ugliest games of the year, the 9-0 finale where Baker threw for 137 yards with the division crown and playoffs on the line. Canales is a huge question mark as well.

We’re now debating how good a throw an incompletion was. The bar is lowwwww.

Just a bigger Bryce without the sunk cost.

That'd be a half decent opening drive.

Actual future photo of Dave Canales sent from week 5.