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2 hours ago, Stingray3030 said:

This is a rookie QB who is getting rushed from every direction on 80% of his snaps...

Actually it's 24%, here's the top 10 most pressured QBs in 2023 from Pro Football Reference. 

The NFL at it's base level is talent evaluation.  Teams that evaluate talent correctly or get lucky inch or jump ahead of teams that are bad at evaluation or unlucky.  Of course talent development is part of the process as well but even then the potential needs to be evaluated correctly.

Carolina doesn't seem to be very good at evaluating talent and even worse at developing potential.

Short but interesting article about the Texans cutting him.

https://torotimes.com/posts/cutting-shaquill-griffin-was-a-mistake-the-houston-texans-will-regret-01hge52vj2n6

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Not only was he the second most-used corner this year by the Texans, but he was also the third highest rated by PFF, with a score of 66.3, just behind Nelson (73.0) and Tavierre Thomas (72.2). Yet, he was released nonetheless in favor of King, who hasn't been as impressive this season from an on-field perspective.

Holy fuging water is wet Batman!

8 hours ago, BY9Franchise said:

I disagree you put him on the 49ers and he's an All Pro 

Purdy is #1 in QBR and Rating along with several other important categories.  San Francisco is also winning games.  These are just the facts.

Bryce is 32nd in QBR and 30th in rating and near dead last in every significant category.  Carolina has won a single game, largely thanks to another surprising if not herculean defensive effort.  Again, these are just the facts.

Facts are knowable things.  We know Purdy is among the best playing and Bryce is among the worst.  Why that's the case is certainly subjective and good conversation.  However, making statements like Bryce would be an All Pro at San Francisco is nothing more than your opinion.  Anyone that pretends their opinion carries the same water as the facts isn't worth having a discussion with. 

ChatGPT says....

On a very real note I think stuffing a Lambo with cash would be a fantastic visual motivator.

11 minutes ago, Evil Hurney said:

Nash Jensen

Didn't Jensen come in when Mays left the Titans game?  Is there anyone behind Jensen?

We were down to Toth at G.  Who would be next man up right now?

This same front office traded up to draft Matt Corral just one year prior.  Sam Howell and Brock Purdy were still eating cheetos.  Just because you think you drafted the guy doesn't mean you drafted the guy.

The narrative really changed after the S2 test results were leaked.  The test didn't even have credibility.  Credibility was inferred because CJ's results were so bad it looked like he had a mental disability.  I think we were leaning Young but still split until that story broke, creating enough doubt to cement Bryce as the pick.

No one will ever pay attention to the S2 again.  However, wait a few years and you can probably sell the Panthers, Browns or Jets the all new S3 with brand new shapes to put in round holes!

If you were tasked with beating Usain Bolt in a foot race would it matter who your coach was?

6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

We have run dozens of plays this year worse than that.

Edit: Honestly not worth the effort.

3 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

If you think it couldn't have been worse, you haven't watched much Panthers football this season.

What is this?  Stop being foolish.  Any outcome other than converting ends the game. 

I expect more from you than some lazy attempt at being witty, add to the conversation or just ignore my posts.

This is a fair reason for Dalton to see a few more starts.  Some say you can’t evaluate Bryce with this team, I say you can evaluate this team or staff with Bryce.  The knife cuts both ways.  A few Dalton starts would provide some much needed clarity before chopping more heads.

Well it certainly couldn’t have been any worse, so there’s a bit of credibility here.

We’re always a step behind.  Paying that fat contract one year too late, shipping a player one year too soon, trading when we shouldn’t and holding when we shouldn’t.  We have to be a laughing stock across the league.  Every team is always looking to see how they can fleece us.  Then Fitts says “in on every deal” and the collective chuckle caused a butterfly effect tsunami in Asia somewhere.  We’re a joke, in fact we’re not even good at being a joke….we’re a bad joke.

I watched because days like this will make it all the sweeter when we contend again.  The suffering is an investment.

Fitts is Stockton Rush and the Panthers are the Titan submersible.  That's how swift the implosion has been.  Hard to believe we were within one win of taking the division last year.  If it's not rock bottom it's only because we're still sinking.

My Dall-E contribution to this thread.

4 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

Do you think we'd have only 1 win if we had a RB rush for 150 yards?

I don’t do make believes at all.  I just discuss reality.  I’ll leave it to you geniuses to debate the unknowable.  
 

BTW you’re now on your 3rd argument.  You are so pointless.

29 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

One of those games was because of Young’s 26-yard run putting us well over 100. Funny thing — he still has the only 22+ yard run this season by a Panther, and it’s one of a whopping two 20+ yard runs 

Well you said you wished Carolina could have 150 yards rushing in a way that implied if Bryce got run support then the story might be different.  So I simply gave you the evidence that the lack of run support over the season has been equally bad in most respects.  Typically, a poster like you abandons their original argument and makes a new one, this time about Bryce helping his own rushing stats.  So dumb and lazy…Bryce has 135 yards rushing against CJs 78.  I’m sure you’ll convince yourself those 57 yards tell a hidden story only you can see.

10 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

I would love to have a RB rush for 150 yards too — that’s more than Sanders has in the last 7 games COMBINED

It was their 4th game with over 100 yards rushing, the same number the Panthers have had.

7 minutes ago, HardcoreHokie said:

We should have drafted Noah Brown in 2017 in the 7th round.  He had 172 yards today and completely made CJ Stroud’s day.  Stud receiver.

Everyone should quote this.