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Death rate still trending down, not as steeply as before, but still going down.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Don't come in here with common sense, who do you think you are?

I tried talking like this 300 pages ago, it won't work

As I said a few posts back, if we could only figure out how to get Congress to go with Trump now, the country would be in better shape It could not be captains choice tournament as they would all want to be captain, well, because they deserve it.

https://www.cnn.com/2012/01/27/opinion/davis-obama-golf/index.html

"Most people with brains" I have five myself and am looking for a good limbic to complete the ensemble

pretty weak

Mexico climbing the ladder as far as countries with issues

If he could take Congress with him every day, it would be the best investment the country could make

You will never find me in love with a Pub or a Dem. Government is not set up for common sense, no matter which side of the aisle you tout. Germans seem so much smarter than the rest of us. Meanwhile, we put our overloads into rest homes, smh https://hbr.org/2020/06/we-need-to-relocate-icu-patients-out-of-covid-19-hotspots

So many people take so many hard and fast stands that others are stupid by masking or stupid by not masking. Bottom line is, nobody knows exactly what is driving numbers, so all your stands for or against should be tempered a bit by lagging data and changing dynamics. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/coronavirus/virus-fatality-picture-is-obscured-by-ultimate-lagging-indicator

Today was the first day I saw a deviation in the death trends downward in about 6 or more weeks It could be turning back up, or a blip, we will see

well, now that you put it THAT way.......

you never know which is the right path with something like this Trump is a moron, but Pelosi is a moron, Biden is a moron and none of them have anything but hindsight. Fauci and the rest are not the all knowing people they were made out to be, WHO is a bunch of corrupt people. Do you wait on a vaccine until next year and tell everyone they stay home until then? How is that having a football season? Sports without fans is about the only way unless the virus is truly losing its punch. There were 2 strains identified early on, we talked about it some 300 pages ago. If everyone under 40 gets it and does not pass along to their grandparents, then who knows, we might end up w herd immunity before the vaccine comes along. You cannot shut down an economy for a year and a half while waiting on a vaccine. Spectator sports will be the last thing back unless they are without spectators There are NO easy roadmaps and putting your faith in politicians is certainly a roll of the dice. Especially in an election year

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53175459

Here is the big issue and why I have been asking about the lag time. Average deaths per day for week starting: May 9th 1472 May 16th 1252 May 23rd 987 May 30th 945 June 6th 776 June 13th 654 June 20th 567 (only 5 days average) So if protests started when average deaths per day were 987, and 2-3 weeks were the lag time, why are we still going down? Again, is the lesser strain what is spreading like wildfire? Are mostly just people under 50 the ones "out there" and getting positive tests? Were the Italians right that the virus is losing its punch? Numbers are numbers and when you follow the numbers instead of the shame and hysteria, it gives you pause. @ Four Corners, it is okay that the death numbers are going down as Trump will probably still lose. You can be optimistic now.

We'd be pretty dull not to know who you are talking about, constantly, without ceasing, in every conversation about every subject. Parenthesis not needed.

Also note that I wear a mask, hate it, but wear it, and wash my hands. I was speaking to the facts of why people no longer are "listening". Just because I try to explain why society is being irresponsible does not mean necessarily that I am acting the same way

I keep asking that since all the mass demonstrations started over a month ago

If the CDC says one week to wash hands, then the next says it doesn't matter and then the next week, and on and on. Then, yes, not so much a refusal, but just cutting the strings from a puppet master who has no clue. Confidence is low and THAT is what you are seeing, not as much of "freedum" stuff as you guys like to put it. Virus is up, deaths are continuing to go down. Hard to even follow the graphs about what has happened over the last 3 months. If what they said was going to happen was happening, we'd already be back up to 2500 deaths per day. 25 year olds are getting it, and going on with their lives. It is hard to know what is the right thing to do, but everyone stayed at home to give hospitals a chance to catch up and now cannot pay their mortgage and grandma died due to the governments insertion of covid patients into the rest homes. Figure that one out. YOU cannot go see grandma, but the government puts covid patients there themselves. More confidence building. Again, deaths are still trending down, until that changes and the CDC, and government and media gets their act together, then it will be hard to have people cower in fear just because CNN hyperventilates. In the end, maybe people will end up being a bit smarter than you give them credit for. "Russia" and many other things will have been the impetus for people not listening to Peter when he cried wolf.

Keep yourself safe

Whats the lag time in general?

Might be a way to get the death rate to start back in upward trajectory?