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Same, only mistake he made to me was he needed to sit down in the zone on the drop so that he could've been able to make the catch while not moving. Also, get those hands up.

Coker was this year's camp hero, Zod/Igo used to have them every year and every year they got cut. This kid runs great routes and has great hands. His father says the plan is for him to be back on the practice squad tomorrow. But it is not going to hurt us or come back to bite us, because in the end he is a slow, UDFA who needs to adjust to the change in talent level. He wouldn't get significant minutes for anyone in the league as is.

I don't think so. Most of that stuff comes as a counter punch. I get what you're saying though. I remember when Joe Brady was here, he would call roll out after roll out and I was like dude there is no counter there. This is predictable as hell and defenses treated it as such.

I did go a bit hard, but think about. What starting free safety can't stop on a dime in the NFL, especially when they haven't made their break on the ball yet? Canales has been stressing for him to take his shots down the field, but a WR running a deep post, and a safety 6/7 yds away already in the area where the throw would go to would make an easy play. That is why he struggled to come up and make the play on Thielen because he looked to be taking away that deep option. My thing was the play design caused him to have to make a decision that was going to give up a completion either way.

Well, I expected some relax, its not that serious posts. First some players bloom later. Look at James Harrison and Cameron Wake. Secondly, did you see the QB room the guy's first few years at SC? Furthermore, I get the drafting negativity as the Rhule/Fitterer years left this team so devoid of talent it was scary. People aren't willing to even give Morgan a shot, much like John Lynch who was a broadcaster before becoming the architect of the San Francisco juggernaut. The guy knows football players, he just has the stink of Fitterer on him. Lastly, you saying my post is identical to Mingo and TMJ is exactly my point. There weren't a bunch of people basically alluding to them as busts after preseason last year or TMJ's rookie year. That is lame to do so after training camp and three preseason games, two of which the guy didn't even play.

Hey sometimes its the KISS formula! Norv Turner once said everyone thinks I'm a genius play caller, but literally it's a hat on a hat and give it Emmitt.

The biggest losers of the new collective bargaining agreement with the new practice schedules were lineman. Two a day practices really helped them with the number of reps and ability to hone their craft. Zavala was so behind physically cause the play he collapsed in Atlanta was so routine that it showed how clearly outmatched he was physically.

Man, he's not going anywhere.

Nah, people are just dumb. They are already labeling Legette a bust or saying he's giving them bust vibes. @PNW_PantherMan, dude we might need to get cooking on those "I was the first to say we were gonna suck" t-shirts!

He had a bunch of yards and hit on some things for the casuals. He threw way behind Legette on a wide open crosser causing the same casuals to dump on Legette. I feel sorry for any WR not named Legette, Thielen, or Johnson that was trying to get evaluated this preseason.

The entire line is going to look better, because they get to be aggressive down hill instead of that zone crap! There seem to be a lot of old school line technique in Canales offense. I have seen double teams, backside help, and old fashioned lead/overload concepts that I haven't seen since 03 Henning years. It really is easier and more suited to help OL excel. Look for a bounce back year from Ickey!

And that's really all you can ask for as a fan. I saw some semblance of competence and that has been missing since 2018-19 save part of the Wilks stretch.

@45catfan, Any safety that is worth a damn would've changed course and fielded that interception like a punt. Respectfully, who gives a damn what you want to see, the correct throw was to Thielen for an easy completion as the film clearly shows. As another poster said, a quicker WR would've easily blasted into the endzone like any decent safety would've picked off any throw attempt to Johnson. This isn't Madden or NCAA. You are just wrong here. No agreeing to disagree. You are wrong, it was a good quick and accurate read. Great play call, great rhythm, great play, great result.

What is this nonsense? People are talking about how behind he is and he is giving them bust vibes. And you wonder why people call us the most miserable fanbase in the league. Kid was basically begging to get some preseason run last week. Quit trying to find a reason to be overtly negative! Preseason means very fooking little to a team's seasonal success! The kid has five years to flame out and assholes commenting because another team had a player look better because he played with a better backup QB know zero about football. I used to wonder why Mr. Scot was so revered on here and now I know it was because he was basically competent in his football knowledge and that was intimidating to a bunch of people who knew jackshite to nothing about the nuances of the game. 1. The kid got a few snaps the entire preseason. 2. Maybe a couple of those were with a competent QB. 3. It is okay if he is coming on, being brought along slowly. He is not going to be our #1 from gate. 4. He was a late bloomer at SC because they didn't have a decent QB until Rattler showed up. 5. Seriously, this negative, knee-jerk, preseason reaction crap is getting old and making the board unbearable!

Steve is a horrible commentator, play by play guy. He is combative about nonsense at one time telling his co-commentator he looked like he ate his own boogers during a telecast. He struggles to make coherent points and his scouting prowess has always been as suspect as his support to every WR we drafted during his tenure. And Mingo is the biggest example of this to date. I hope no one is listening to him within the organization about anything except how to adjust to underthrown passes.

This guy is very solid and played well in Seattle. He played above his head and they are hedging their bets on young guys instead of moving forward with him. We stepped in and cleaned up with the opportunity before anyone else. People who are negative about this are baffling to me.

That's what it is going to take is stable rebuilding. We are devoid of talent due to mismanagement and terrible drafting. Our division is trash and we can build toward competency over the next few years starting with our defense like we did in 02. The QBs are even wearing the same number 9.

He definitely felt that way! I for sure would've listened to the guy who used his brain and work ethic to become a top tier WR, has his own training facility, played with several HOF receivers, and someone you supposedly trusted to coach the players you drafted ! It always kills me because we would have had the offense to combat that all time defense in the championship. And our window wouldn't have slammed shut like it did!

Do coaches count? If so we got to put Jack Del Rio and Rob Chudzinski!

Never forget WR coach Ricky Proehl wanted Devante Adams and Stephon Diggs after scouting rounds. Gettlemagic though wanted a 90s NBA frontcourt. We would still be winning!

A bunch of Indy fans that I knew laughed at us when we hired Frank. They were completely done with him even more so than any of us with Fox and Rivera. It was more along the line of Rhule. Frank's number one go to move was to get a dinosaur of a yesteryear QB and then try to make it work. It was a weaker version of Fox's vision. Fox just lucked into Delhomme. The talking heads were like Frank has to try with a younger QB. Bryce or CJ, Frank wasn't happy and then what a sad hodgepodge thrown together and labeled an All Star cast. What happens when you take a ton of different people with different staunchly so philosophies? No one can agree on anything. And that would have been toxic for CJ, Bryce, or Anthony R. So I get it, the kid is short and doesn't have the strongest arm. But the negativity is just out of control. I told you so doesn't make you feel better later, because I thought Reich was a stupid hire and he looked like he had zero energy from day one. That ended up being the case, but harping on it ain't gonna retroactively make Tepper give Wilks a shot. Everybody wanted the young coordinator so that "he can't be stolen away from a defensive head coach", but hate this one's enthusiasm. Last year they looked terrible in the joint practice. This year they looked much better. Huddle attitude is exactly the same though, overwhelmingly negative. I just wonder what everybody is going to say if they look halfway competent. Seriously, this is the guy that turned Geno Smith and Baker Mayfield from laughing stocks to NFL competitors. There are no t-shirts for being the guy who said we were gonna suck first.

Because literally everybody has about a hundred people on their team and are evaluating 1-100 daily before having to make final cuts. I have seen so many players who played in other leagues last year in games, so everybody has scraped the barrel everywhere looking for options. Until teams start making cuts there is no one to go and get besides old vets who want to be overpaid. Embracing the suck and just having holes is something you have to do to get the option to get better when everything has been mismanaged like it was here in the post Cam era.

32 coming off of major surgery and this thread was still made. I thought that we as fans wanted to be through giving away our picks.

Today's practice makes me a little more hopeful that this coach who got something out of perennial bums Geno Smith and Baker Mayfield may just have a plan for Bryce that can be successful.

The Milton kid in New England looked super competent the other night. How do we not bring a guy like that to camp as opposed to Plummer? The Patriots drafted a rookie QB and still brought this kid in on the bottom of the roster.