NorthTryon

I mean it has to be. Nobody makes plays on the ball and everyone constantly looks lost. I have never seen an NFL team like this. Well this team the last two years does come to mind, especially every game against Tampa Bay.

Yeah, half a sack buddy. I don't care what smitty said. He's media now and he has to have a number of talking points for his allotted time. Taylor Moton had zip to do with Baker's fumbles, tipped passes cause of Baker's height, Baker's interception, or the coaches giving CMAC like ten rushes. You should have said from jump that this is Steve Smith's opinion that he came up with and I am going to siphon off of and present as my own.

Boooooooooooom! Hit him with that obvious. I really dislike when people act like a university has never produced a good player in its history just to be dismissive. What they don't realize is this coaching staff is mismanaging every player here and most of these guys deserve better. Most of these guys would do better in a different scheme. And the guy did pick two horrible plays to make his point though. Face palm.

Is that the go to complaint for people who want something to complain about? They get paid and then.... Moton played fine Sunday and has been consistent even since signing his extension. Clowney didn't even sniff Baker until he was chased out of the pocket by Garrett or it collapsed due to pressure elsewhere. People try to poo on o-line and d-linemen so much and don't know what the hell they are even looking at. There were a number of plays that they ran stunts, brought pressure and Moton was a singular bright spot on the line. Clowney had a half a sack.

Yeah, but at least in some of those games you could legit see where the players were screwing the pooch and missing opportunities. I seen in another thread where someone said both sides of the ball looked like 1 guys that had just met each other right before the game.

I wish they would just come out and say it because it is looking super suspect that he hasn't got a chance yet. I believe if Flores would have got what he wanted in Miami, he would be a name everyone knows for football instead of the lawsuit. He really wanted Herbert over Tua and was subsequently ignored. But when the plan seemingly is to get rid of you and move on before you have a legit shot, what are you gonna do. Sue?

Yeah, if and buts. Along with the Christmas all year long thing.

Hahahahahahahahahaha! He said a full Costanza. I wondered why everyone was kept bringing up college jobs and now I understand. It seems like taking a college opening is the only way we are going to get rid of this guy.

And Tepper did a bullshit interview with their OC with zero intention of hiring him, then sat in Rhule's driveway waiting on him to return from vacation in hopes to steal him away from Giants without formal damn interview! Our organization is on some joke status nowadays.

They all(d-line) had plays where they looked overwhelmed and outmatched. That end around where Burns ran himself completely out of the play was just sad, but everyone else and yes D. Brown were just getting blasted off the ball too. When your best players look terrible and out of position, it is the coaching/scheme.

He will walk in the halls of the greats before him. His name shall echo in eternity with names like Mike Davis! GMs will talk for the next 2 to 3 seasons of the great things he did this year in Carolina!

The only difference is that they deliberately went out and got Allen some weapons. They were calling designed runs and he took off purposely from the pocket a lot last night. Beane is just not going to sit there and let him have zero weapons. The kid was really meh until they went and got Stephon Diggs. You all remember him from the would've, could've files of yesteryear. I like to briefly think hypothetically of Beane being the GM, listening to our then WR coach, selecting Devante Adams over KB, selecting Stephon Diggs over Funchess, not trading any picks to do so, and our championship window not being slammed shut after one and a half seasons.

He is in fact off the leash! The national media has ran with it being his idea and a bad look with little follow up. Team definitely needs to win or woweeee on Monday.

Man come on, four tackles and a half a sack. Again Hoskins didn't jump off the screen. Now people are alluding to the fact of off field issues that the brass didn't like. That makes more sense than this lack of production argument and people can say what they want, but 5th rounders should be more than flier picks. Everyone complains about how we cannot build a consistent winner and then in the same breath will say so what it was a 5th rounder.

Probably, instantly shows you are reaching for something. I don't need you to explain player maturity and give me some soccer dad take on players you know very little about. I was saying if a 2nd year, 5th round pick all of a sudden doesn't have the skill to play in the NFL, what does that say about our regime? See above response and I watched the games. Secondly, when you watch the games you as a fan barely know what the assignments are and what the coaches are asking them to do so spare me. Don't get excited because you have a bunch of posts on a message board and think you really know football. Hoskins got blown off the ball, has trouble with leverage, and doesn't even register playing against 3rd and 4th string talent. I don't know maybe that's what Rhule wants. I truly am tired of this team wasting draft picks in trades and picking bums who don't pan out this quickly. And they were praising him less than a week ago.

They drafted a player, he got injured and he can't even get a practice squad spot after one year? Then amongst each other they feel he didn't have the skill to play NFL Football. And he was cut to keep Hoskins? Make it make sense.

Ron who was just too backward for words and loyal to a fault with vets according to some gave Sam Howell quite a bit of practice reps as well as some game reps with 1st and 2nd team players. Corral was picking up the last few fragmented reps left by PJ since he stepped onto the practice field. And that's the way uh huh Rhule liked it!

Thanks for playing the hits and touching down to the surface.

Vernon had like one game where he had a a couple of series of disruptive plays. Gettleman actually closed our championship window with this draft.

1. Mmmmhhmmm 2. You probably right. His quotes on one guy doing well and then another battling back the next day just made me sigh.

Yes, yes I do. Because he is a football coach. And weren't you the one saying McVay wasn't that special? Coach of the Year award winning Sean McVay, as well as the award itself isn't that impressive. I believe your words were "look back at the list the last twenty years, nothing special".

And none of this would've mattered yet again if Jaquiski Tartt doesn't drop this interception. This is like congratulating an accountant for being good with numbers. I for one expect an NFL level head coach to be able to have a good memory.

Yeah, they made the playoffs his first year in Washington. Also five of those coaches you act like are nobodies are ten times what we have now in a truly laughable HC like Rhule. It is convenient to leave off models of consistency in past award winners like McVay, Belichick, Reid, and Arians. But I digress, hopefully our shiny new toy of a HC will win more than five games this year.

Well also the truly great coaches catch lightning in a bottle with all pieces. Look at Jimmy Johnson in Dallas. Their trades, drafts, everything was a smooth assembly line. Then look at Jimmy in Miami. Panther coaches have always had to deal with suspect GMs. Imagine if Gettleman would've listened to coaching staff as Proehl wanted them to draft Diggs and Adams. Imagine if Hurney would've got something out of the later rounds consistently. Rivera and Fox would've looked like better coaches. I believe Rivera got a lot out of the roster especially in the years he won the award. And the thing about coaches is do they look dominant at times. At times Rivera looked dominant. Now we don't even look competent. I am reserved to see what comes with these changes in putting guys that are more qualified to be the HC on the staff.

I see that, but also the man's QB got hurt. We were 6-2 until Cam got hurt second to last year, then the next year they won five games in a row with Kyle Allen. I feel like Tepper wanted his guy so bad he just quickly ushered in the next era of suck.