NorthTryon

There are definite times where as a sports fan you can see the perfect storm. The raiders game being one of them. There was a QB change, raiders had a weak offense, weak defense. A parlay was paying out at +850 for Dalton, Chuba, and Johnson to all have TDs. It is the safest bet going forward, because these are professionals and the Panthers have guys who could possibly be good backups and special teamers in the future starting at important positions.

And please no Gardner Minshew. His name always comes up and he is garbage truck juice!

The last three weeks we have lost two players off of our revamped o-line. AT being out matters, because they are having to push Coker at the slot because Mingo is a bust. The next three difference makers behind Brown and Horn on defense have been hurt, one for the season. As mentioned in the post above, what do you expect Canales to do? Players are still being schemed open and there is still a lot of meat being left on the bone in explosive plays due to the personnel. Take the Sanders play yesterday on the naked play action boot. He tripped on the turf and fell when he had a blocker in front with a whole side line of green grass. Chuba got tackled for a one yard gain on a zone scheme where the line caved down the entire Washington dline and all he had to do was make a cut back for a wide open foot race. If Miles gets his head around on the screen, maybe we get 7 or at least 3 out of the first march straight down the field. Diontae and Dalton got their signals crossed on the next possession on an easy rhythm passing play. I am with you, he doesn't get a complete pass, there are growing pains, but the offense has not been figured out, they just will need to gain continuity, and continue to add playmakers as well as let these kids grow up in the system.

He is still doing Darnold stuff. He is throwing into double coverage, bad mechanics, and panicking with the slightest pressure. He just has a monster WR and a monster defense. He is a good place holder, but you better go get a guy who can make plays when you want to make the jump.

Irrelevant. Thanks for failing.

But, but, but WIlks was more of Fox and Rivera clone! Never mind the players were head over heels for him, we had extra draft capital, that was when we experienced the most success in franchise history, and he was a native son. Now they have their young offensive mind in Canales and nobody can steal him away, which was another bogus reason for not hiring Wilks(What if his OC has a good season and someone steals him). Look at what is happening in Houston and though someone may eventually make Bobby an offer, but for now they are crushing it with a defensive minded head coach and his OC handling the offense. But according to the Huddle and Tepper, that would never work and was a waste of time. Face palm emoticon!

That's the hardest for me. And he is operating with the chip on his shoulder that we were gonna take him and passed at the last minute. Every interview he did over the summer was how he thought he was going to Carolina. It's working out for him swimmingly in Houston, but he wanted to be here. Face palm emoticon.

He clings on to the Green Bay end of the game drive and like four other plays. My response is dude you are falling on your sword for short Josh Rosen!

Seeing an organization bend over backwards to appease a guy who is cooked, is a bad teammate, won't listen to coaches, and personally doesn't deal with anybody in his family and get a pass from the media is infuriating. The only person I have seen that has said anything remotely to address it has been Troy Aikman. He said it has the potential to fall apart and get ugly.

I have a friend who argues till he's blue in the face that Bryce just needs a new shot with a coach that configure an offense around his skillset. I am like "What skillset! He does nothing well!". He's not the biggest, doesn't have the best pocket presence, he isn't the fastest, but he does have a weak arm!

That is how you keep the fanbase engaged in a rebuild. I liken it to seeing a high school team with a bunch of sophomores on varsity. They are competing and you know once those pups grow up they are going to be hard to deal with. These dudes are a great foundation, and once you bring in a new QB in a couple of years they will be seasoned. Because of how Andy is playing, they are able to progress, the GM is able to evaluate, and the coach has players that will be years comfortable in his system. And @rayzor made a point earlier that only a certain kind of fan would know to make. You build a culture even in losing if everyone is fighting together. Those guys know what it is to lose, how they lost games, and what they are lacking. As they grow, you hit on a few picks, bring in a couple of veterans with winning mentalities, and they will be hard to deal with. We have ability to get the cream of the crop in the draft and cap space will be workable. But as long as you're building that culture of constantly fighting, eventually you become a team that can't be broken, the next man up mentality, and the punch you in the mouth kind of team like the 2010-2018 Seahawks or Harbaugh's 49ers.

I just don't understand the love and affinity for this player. All online today were stupid Bryce apologists comments. These are two that I especially thought were egregious. That's my problem with Tepper. He has been so inept as an owner, people are really acting like it took an organization to ruin the shortest first round QB in the history of the draft with a weak arm, and a soft demeanor. Bryce was never going to be a good NFL QB and only Tepper couldn't see it. Bryce would be garbage truck juice in Houston, Tennessee, and Indianapolis. If Bryce would've been in there we'd at least got a field goal. How's that change to Andy Dalton treating ya?

I'm supporting all things Nico! Kid can't be sped up, crazy accurate and hard worker. He should be polished in two years. If we drafted defense heavy next year, resigned some guys, a couple of crafty free agent moves, the team would be ready for that franchise QB in 26.

That's the thing for me. He is tough and runs hard when the o-line creates for him as well as not being a fumbler. But certain points in all of our games if you know what you are looking for, you see missed opportunities. Yesterday the line caved down on one particular play, he was one on one with Terrell the CB, and he only got two yards. A better back would have broke that tackle and it would've been off to the races. That is what having a game breaker at RB gives you. Everyone is so used to taking a RB high is a ancient way to run a team narrative, but Bijon ran wild all over us yesterday. Teams are going to start running the ball again as defenses are just small fast and rangy nowadays. That is why Derrick Henry is still doing what he is in Baltimore.

It's like The View with sports. I like sports but I hate The View so in turn not a big fan of these shows.

It's even better with a Haloti Ngata, Vince Wilfork type guy and OLBs like TJ Watt. Watt can hold the line of scrimmage and rush the passer like a 4-3 end which is what you need when they are sending the house off tackle. If a team goes true smash mouth with a pulling lineman, lead blocker, and tight end we have almost nothing to stop it. It is just easier to outfit a 4-3.

All the shite that has happened to dude and he's still shining. I guess now ESPN is okay with a former MVP having something to say about current QB play.

The only thing here is that is easier to draft, scheme, and plug free agents into a 4-3. Other than that, Evero is currently not the biggest issue. I think this is a thinly veiled shot at the 3-4 witch is becoming a sticking point of Panther content creators.

The thing is nobody knew Chuba was going to perform this well this year. He looked just as terrible as everybody else save for the game against Detroit. We all remember him dropping passes and leaving yards on the field. What I meant more so by the Rome built in a day comment was if we are going to be sorry for the next few years, why did it matter if you got a home run at RB in the second or a center? Neither would've been slated to play a lot early as Corbett was the plan at center. You can't get everything in one draft. Some positions have to wait. And it worked out fine until Corbett got hurt. There is a good center in every draft just like RB and we will have high picks for the foreseeable future. So get a center this year or next. Then you have Brooks and your center for the future. I get it, it wasn't the best decision, but let's be about the forward motion. And we can only get on here and have certainty it wasn't the best move because we see how well the kid in Pittsburgh is playing, Corbett is hurt, and Brooks still isn't close to playing.

I'm fine with taking a RB high as a special RB is still a franchise boost. I also know you can't build Rome in a day. This will take years. In this instance, we are building from less than scratch and a decade plus starter at center over a guy that is currently hurt, best back in draft or not, really was a head scratcher. But if Corbett doesn't get hurt, he was playing well, and this is not as big a deal. Every team is a decimating injury away from being ass out at one position. Upcoming draft this year, its hog molly time!

I just don't understand how you work with good coaching, Smitty, and get starter reps like MIngo and cannot look better than this. How he flubbed that TD yesterday I will never know.

Players cruise through Training Camp with one a day practices and multiple days off. They play almost zero snaps in the preseason and then wham wide open effort with high snap counts in week one. No wonder everyone is getting injured. The old adage of football game shape still rings true.

It is year two with the same WRs, O-line, and similar offense.

Yeah, seeing a players explode on us that we drafted when we had a decent scouting department was very gut wrenching.