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If you are going to take a QB in the second, take Hooker who is reported that he may still be there on some boards. If we are going to make a bad pick, lets make the best bad pick.

I believe if they keep Wilks, you have to get an OC that no one is going to want to hire immediately after one decent year of offensive play. Me and my people were talking about a guy like Pep Hamilton who did a great job with Justin Herbert his rookie season, but that staff got none of the credit. I just know some young OC isn't going to inspire and garner the respect of Wilks. These players are playing inspired and it seems like just pulling the plug on that could be short sighted.

Burns is a franchise cornerstone type. When we first drafted him, it was looked at as a major coup and teams, fans were mad that he fell to us. He is an asset to the community, the locker room, and is rarely hurt. Why don't people get that culture matters? When the team starts to compete, it will be good to have Burns around showing rookies how to work, how to be professional, and how to be coachable. Guys get out of line and aren't team oriented, Burns will be there to mentor. How quickly we forget the scene where the vets talked to Donte Jackson. Who cares about a bunch of picks down the line for guys we don't even know yet? This is not Madden!

Nah, not mean at all. If I was as far as you were on the ledge in this thread, I'd feign ignorance and be dismissive too. Take it easy bud.

You were so mad and then took time to edit your post. Hmmm, looks like someone was making all that noise and all those posts for nothing. Hey, at least the high post count helps with street cred huh.

I'm not complaining, I just know how it is when you have someone too hype about NFL stuff and ultimately have no real say in how it goes. I'm excited for where the Panthers are headed. I am also realistic and also know how NFL teams operate. You don't trade character guys that are good in their prime as a starting point for whatever the plans are going forward. Just be open for debate when the trade doesn't happen.

Yeah, and you are the kind of winner that takes this way too seriously. They probably aren't going to trade him and you will look like you know about as much about football as your posts suggest. I didn't prompt you to do anything but chill out. The Panthers are headed in a good direction with or without this trade.

How many times are you going to post in this thread dude? You are way too hype and you are going to have to flip out when it may not happen. And you keep saying Fitts ruined the team with Darnold when everyone knows he just now has real final roster say. There was an article that laid out how Rhule had final roster say and outlined all of the Darnold deal. I have seen Burns blow up plays and I have seen him washed out by TEs. It is good compensation, but it is also two years down the road. You have to be more even keeled or you are going to be super disappointed.

Do you realize what you are asking these people to do? Good luck.

True, Buffalo is up there with their lot of 5'9 and 5'10" WRs running circles around people in the end zone. Gettleman and his damn basketball team strategy at WR cost us Devin Adams and Stephon Diggs. And this thread is noodles, two better throws and that's two TDs to Marshall.

That's my thing with him, and it is a pull your hair out WTF play. Also, his issues make you really angry because they seem like a lack of attention to detail. He will just be completely coasting and give up a huge play. I'll be looking like what was he doing, thinking, see? It boggles the mind.

Man it wasn't because he is young. Those were just bad throws. The first was too low and the highpoint was easy for the much shorter defender to make a play. The second was too far toward the side of the end zone as he made the play easily but there was no real estate left.

Brown is the most recent example that learning and perfecting your craft in the NFL takes time. I don't see how fans forget that every time a draft pick doesn't produce week 1 of their rookie year. People were actually talking about the man's weight and he's a DT.

Man Will Levis got embarrassed Saturday. He played way worse than Hooker and is only a year younger. I think its funny people talk about Hooker being so old, but Levis is one year younger. Levis has been super inconsistent and struggles every time they play anyone good. The draft starts with Stroud or Young and goes from there.

Man, that was a name I hadn't thought of in a while! He literally played some seasons almost every week at a different position. What a luxury!

This is the part about fandom that is nauseating. I don't even try with the imbeciles on facebook and their tirades because we have people on here that don't know basic information. It was put out there to be common knowledge that Rhule had final roster control during his tenure and even eludes in the article to Tepper realizing that it needs to be more balanced going forward. People read this article then immediately post responses like "mAn, Fitterer sEeMs weAk tO meee and what a SpIneLEss chump" like none of them have a hierarchy or chain of command they don't routinely fall in line with at their job!

Man staaaaahp! Nate Chandler played his last two seasons at UCLA as a DT and that is what he was originally signed to play. You didn't fix shite for me. But the gif was funny.

Well, the league has to do this because the refs have so much control over the game. Everyone on twitter was saying that they got beat 21-3 and this is a non issue. I saw two things that pissed me off. First Evans dropped the deep post and he was only open because he completely shoved DJax to the ground coming out of his break. That was obvious PI as their feet didn't get tangled or incidental contact. He straight up stiff armed him to the ground! That non call could have changed the entire complexity of the game! Secondly after the Chuba TD, the ref came over and started pushing Panther players and waiving for them to go to the benches. This would seem to be in the norm, but think about how long and over the top celebrations are after turnovers now. Let's not forget how Atlanta's chance at a win was snatched by the refs a couple of weeks ago. They do what they want and the league covers it up as they see fit.

Same good sir! People forget we made our franchise QB play behind a line that included one Nate Chandler an undrafted DT out of UCLA.

I would like to add, Hartsfield has looked really good the last couple of weeks defending the slot. You can really tell the difference as the run fits have been better and defense looks overall better coached. Other than Evans shoving DJax to the ground on the deep post nobody has looked lost like the start of the season.

Yeah, Baker is just underwhelming all around.

Hahahahaha, again you are ignoring Rhule having final roster say. Ignoring obvious facts, but I'm the one with the pea sized brain. No one is saying Fitterer is so great, but he had a helluva better track record before being hired to be Rhule's rubber stamp.

Especially knowing how small that window is in professional sports.

All of these young OC type guys aren't working out and most of them have weak defenses. Other than the Philly OC, all of the candidates have had games this year where good defenses have made them struggle and crapped all over the genius game planning. It has to do with the personnel anyways. Norv Turner during his tenure as Dallas OC once said "people act like we're some kind of geniuses when we are just doing the obvious thing until they stop it", which at the time was feeding Emmitt. Look at Leftwich 2-3 years ago and look at him now. You need a good leader plain and simple, because sometimes the game plan is going to fail. I just find it hilarious how much hate there was for Dorsey here as a QB coach and people are literally wanting him to return as a HC. That is the reason Flores is suing the NFL. Frankly these guys haven't earned their shot and are getting jobs they don't deserve. I remember when the Browns hired Chudzinski and thought man he's not some kind of guru, he just had Cam and a lot of pieces.

Again, Rhule had final roster say! I don't know why you keep ignoring when people say that. Fitts helped build a consistent winner in Seattle and deserves a shot. Do you not remember how many good LBs Seattle had? You have to have depth genius. Littleton, Shaq, Wilson, and Luvu are playing ahead of him and they are playing well! He is excelling on special teams. You have got to quit shitting on every post because CMC got traded dude.