NorthTryon

The kids of professional athletes really do have a huge jump on knowing what it takes to get to the next level. Having all that information at your fingertips really produces a pro level prospect. He has played and operated super efficiently off the bat, but I didn't know he was this polished.

Yes, yes it is.

Exactly, we are making strides in o-line consistency for the first time since the early 2000s. As long as he doesn't come in there at 5'9", I wouldn't be opposed. I'd rather take him and he explode into thin air from a hit than take Will Levis.

Yeah, Mel Kiper is the greatest snake oil salesman that ever lived!

His value doesn't go down. We recently extended Moore and he still held high trade value this year. Also, the only reason the Rams didn't extend Von Miller was because of his age. "Wanting him for the cheap". Those picks they offered didn't seem like they wanted him cheap. Did you expect them to not extend him after trading this "no brainer" of a haul for him? That is why Chubb was extended. We are not a farm system, NFL Europe team that just develops players and then gives them away. Carolina can compete with a competent QB. They could be competing in two years, or still waiting to take picks in hopes that they could be as good for the team as Moore and Burns. As a fanbase, some tend to undervalue our players.

And you must be the same who thinks he got injured running the ball. Cam Newton was injured trying to tackle the the CB Reed from the Chargers after Kelvin gave up in the endzone. Cam Newton would have been fine if that would've never happened. That started his surgeries. The running had zero to do with it and the way the refs let defenders tee off, he was more vulnerable in the pocket. The TJ Watt hit wouldn't have even mattered that much had it not started with this. “I threw an interception, trying to throw it to Benjy (Kelvin Benjamin),” Newton said. “I tried to go make the tackle, and I tried to push him out, and I extended my arm, and I messed up my AC joint.

And the media too. I can't remember how many times I heard talking heads say they need to go get DJ Moore from Carolina.

I applaud you for doing so and I do the same. I hope it has been like that for you your entire work history. But we don't work in an NFL front office and all jobs are not the same. Jimmy Johnson was a revolutionary drafter, scouter, talent evaluator, and coach but lost his job because of NFL politics. I am talking about all of your posts in this thread. Every time you are hit with some truth you bounce off to something else. You literally picked out one excerpt from a lengthy article and say this is it, all the other explanatory information contained therein is irrelevant. In the end it is all moot. We are just saying that Fitts helped build a consistent winner in Seattle. As the article said everything went through Rhule. The guy now has his chance to build with final roster say and his track record before he came here was strong.

Just like you do at your job. Exactly, you wouldn't say shite and go along to get along. Good job on picking one excerpt out of a ten page article. You certainly know how to move the goalposts.

Its just enduring the bandwagoners when we are good. The Friday before the 2015 Championship Sunday, I stopped in Lenoir to eat lunch and it was a sea of teal and black. Young and old, rich and poor rooted for Panthers victory. I haven't seen one shirt in Western NC in a restaurant in the six years since.

Get em up outta here!!!

Nah, they would rather argue their nonsensical point, ham it up, than to look at the obvious revelations made in the in depth article that would completely shut their mouths. Some people just choose ignorance. That is like someone on the Facebook page after a 2015 video said that Cam was good until he got into drinking and cocaine.

The thing is that it is designed for the interim to never really have a chance to succeed. You come in the middle of an upheaval, limping to the finish line, do house cleaning, and everyone says that you are a bad coach while you're doing it. They were competitive the two weeks before this game, but it is still a huge void of talent at key positions. Guys like Luvu are just Jags and can't carry the jocks of guys we have had in the past like AJ Klein and he is playing major snaps. YGM can't set the edge with a gun to his head and CJ Henderson is the human pylon. And we still don't have a QB. Wilks may not be the answer going forward, but quit shitting on him like he's a nobody who has no idea about players and coaching.

Yeah, I'll hold off on being skeptical and dismissive of a good player because of the extraneous circumstances around him. Aaron Rodgers looks like garbage truck juice this year because of the extraneous factors around him. Herbert is a stud and I didn't expect him to be. Everybody can't literally carry a team of bums like a young Cam Newton.

I was mentioning him to talk about Pep Hamilton. He surprised a lot of people with how quickly he took to pro game and Hamilton was his QB coach. I feel like Herbert definitely can get better, but their team stays mired in injuries. His WRs are always hurt(K. Allen this year), they have lineman hurt, and injuries at RB currently. Then last year they had defensive injuries across the board.

If you are going to take a QB in the second, take Hooker who is reported that he may still be there on some boards. If we are going to make a bad pick, lets make the best bad pick.

I believe if they keep Wilks, you have to get an OC that no one is going to want to hire immediately after one decent year of offensive play. Me and my people were talking about a guy like Pep Hamilton who did a great job with Justin Herbert his rookie season, but that staff got none of the credit. I just know some young OC isn't going to inspire and garner the respect of Wilks. These players are playing inspired and it seems like just pulling the plug on that could be short sighted.

Burns is a franchise cornerstone type. When we first drafted him, it was looked at as a major coup and teams, fans were mad that he fell to us. He is an asset to the community, the locker room, and is rarely hurt. Why don't people get that culture matters? When the team starts to compete, it will be good to have Burns around showing rookies how to work, how to be professional, and how to be coachable. Guys get out of line and aren't team oriented, Burns will be there to mentor. How quickly we forget the scene where the vets talked to Donte Jackson. Who cares about a bunch of picks down the line for guys we don't even know yet? This is not Madden!

Nah, not mean at all. If I was as far as you were on the ledge in this thread, I'd feign ignorance and be dismissive too. Take it easy bud.

You were so mad and then took time to edit your post. Hmmm, looks like someone was making all that noise and all those posts for nothing. Hey, at least the high post count helps with street cred huh.

I'm not complaining, I just know how it is when you have someone too hype about NFL stuff and ultimately have no real say in how it goes. I'm excited for where the Panthers are headed. I am also realistic and also know how NFL teams operate. You don't trade character guys that are good in their prime as a starting point for whatever the plans are going forward. Just be open for debate when the trade doesn't happen.

Yeah, and you are the kind of winner that takes this way too seriously. They probably aren't going to trade him and you will look like you know about as much about football as your posts suggest. I didn't prompt you to do anything but chill out. The Panthers are headed in a good direction with or without this trade.

How many times are you going to post in this thread dude? You are way too hype and you are going to have to flip out when it may not happen. And you keep saying Fitts ruined the team with Darnold when everyone knows he just now has real final roster say. There was an article that laid out how Rhule had final roster say and outlined all of the Darnold deal. I have seen Burns blow up plays and I have seen him washed out by TEs. It is good compensation, but it is also two years down the road. You have to be more even keeled or you are going to be super disappointed.

Do you realize what you are asking these people to do? Good luck.

True, Buffalo is up there with their lot of 5'9 and 5'10" WRs running circles around people in the end zone. Gettleman and his damn basketball team strategy at WR cost us Devin Adams and Stephon Diggs. And this thread is noodles, two better throws and that's two TDs to Marshall.