NorthTryon

Tell the O-line to be super cautious about getting their hands outside of the shoulder pads. I can see them licking their chops to call one of those gashing runs back on a phantom holding call.

Again, you're being dismissive and showing inability to look past surface. I compared him to Rhule, Hackett, McVay, and Steichen. And again, you are proving my point.

Does he still think Fhule is here?

And it would be his second stint at HC. He's learned some things and he has done this while allowing the OC to totally control the other side of the ball. People that don't want to take into account the things that Wilks has done this season flat out don't know football. I can see if you don't want him as HC, but certain people on this board don't even acknowledge the strides he has made with the same players. Rhule being the hot name for HC and given an insane contract were fine, but giving Wilks a shot is complete nonsense to many on here and social media too. That's why a derogatory, dismissive statement like "being better than Rhule shouldn't be the measuring stick for Wilks" should be addressed. Rhule is the kind of guy that gets hired over more seasoned, experienced, and better leaders of men constantly. They are given the keys to the kingdom over and over. For every McVay, there is a Hackett. Wilks has outperformed Rhule, Hackett, and many other coaches with the talent he has since getting the interim tag. And it matters, because people are wanting to bypass him to go hire yet another unproven, barely heard of OC who has had their share of hiccups in coaching. I'm with Snow, at least give the guy credit for what he has done with what was a jack ass festival before taking over.

What's funny is do you remember the throw he made back across the field during his pro day that everyone climaxed over? He tried that on Thursday in a real game and it promptly got intercepted!

I had this same back and forth with a dude two weeks ago. He was like yeah, I would cause at my job they know me and I won't stand for......Sure buddy, your job is comparable to an NFL gm. It was like arguing with a child still in the stage of development where they believe people stop existing when they go out of the room.

In another thread seasoned posters were talking about how we were outclassed, out this, and out that. I was like what are they supposed to do with this Rhule built roster and his raggedy retread QB train. Crickets..........

Pie for talking football and the lack of talent on the roster. I am a big Wilks fan as a candidate. I really like Shan Steichen as well. I just hate a bunch of emotional, dismissive posting without anything to back it up.

They don't want to see the adjustments because they want to solidify the anti Wilks narrative. They ran man to man and were beat on a couple of throws. Then they went zone and our lack of talent showed up as players made some plays and others they didn't. All kinds of adjustments were made and people that don't know football are just being dismissive. This is a Rhule(college coach with only experience being 1 year as assistant OL coach) built roster and the fact they are coached up to at least be competitive is a feat in itself.

The thing that surprises me the most about you old school posters is your posting is still so much about raw emotion and so little about football. I was disappointed yesterday in the loss, but this should not be a end all be all to your thoughts on Steve Wilks. He has made this team somewhat respectable this last 65% of the season. Did he inherit some new players since he took over? No, he didn't. Yes, they beat Seattle last week in somewhat convincing fashion. But, this team is still the same team that is massively devoid of talent at these positions, DE, DT, CB, TE, OLB, and quarterback! Everyone is shitting on the gameplan, but what are they supposed to do? Explain to me what they are supposed to do to not struggle to get outperformed the rest of the year with Sam Darnold(backup PJ) and the rest of the Rhule roster. Also, let's not forget he also inherited a OC that was peeled off the scrap heap because no one wanted to work with Rhule! What is there to do but try and run so the game is not solely on Darnold? As far as the game went, seriously they tried to run. The Steelers stacked the box. They passed and Darnold did ok, but it was still Sam Darnold. He missed wide open throws and navigated the pocket like cat with mittens on a glass table. On defense they ran press man and Keith Taylor got beat on a prayer throw in the first half. They then went zone and the players still struggled because the roster needs more talent. Adjustments were made and players played to the best of their ability and they still got beat is what I saw. Let's be honest, Wilks was never supposed to have this good of a showing and garner this kind of support. It would have looked bad to immediately come out and be negative about Wilks. But some did it anyway and called it common sense while they did it. So after not winning out, dropping a game, I know it does feel a bit better to do it now. I'll be honest, other than Shane Steichen, OC for the Eagles, I truly believe Wilks plus a new OC is the best bet for the immediate future.

The Patriots won six titles beating the bums in their division. It was literally six games every year except for the two years the Jets were good and a couple of Bills losses. How can it be a negative to win the games on your schedule? If you are going to argue against the man coaching, at least don't move the goal posts.

Maybe its just something about these A-holes named Matt. Matt Doherty came in to Chapel Hill in the early 2,000s and alienated everyone, fired the team mom, cut out summer games, alienated former players, and wasn't accessible. Rhule came here and tried the same thing. As it did in Chapel Hill, it backfired here too! All of these former players showing up, showing interest, and becoming involved again is a nod to the culture that has been built over the last twenty years. Gross, Delhomme, S. Smith, Luke, G-Reg, T. Davis, Cam, Rucker, and Pep are franchise cornerstones and should always be/feel welcome! I'm glad Tepper is finally seeing this and all the egg on his face was his doing for acting like our culture didn't exist. The vibe that Wilks has brewing now and all the support shows how wrong our owner was.

Colin Cowherd said we were the best team in the NFC South. It just blew my mind to hear anyone anywhere call the Panthers the best at anything.

I can definitely understand that. But, look how those guys are mortgaging their future to win now on both sides of the ball. Those two teams have traded more picks to get draft position and players than almost anyone in the last five years.

Because the narrative and base for Wilks to get HC position is coming to fruition. The anti Wilks crowd is starting to get increasingly negative and making louder comments that show a lack of football knowledge. It has literally been draft position, questions about not trading good players, now comes the questionable nitpicking, and then it will be all out screaming look how he did in Arizona.

What do you think of S. McDermott? I mean he came off of Rivera's tree as a defensive coordinator. His offense is run by someone that was on Rivera's staff. Daboll got his shot because people are on this stupid narrative of OCs for head coaching is the only way to compete. They are quickly fading from playoff contention. The only reason that the Bills offense suddenly changed for the better was because of the personnel. Allen got way better with a WR who could consistently beat coverage in Diggs. What you need is a leader of men and a good GM. Hell if Gettleman would've drafted Devante Adams and Stephon Diggs like the coaching staff wanted, Rivera might not be look at so unfavorably.

One think to note is the Lions are averaging nearly 30 points a game in Detroit, but that number drops to 18 per game on the road. That trend makes that a more winnable game now that we are actually scoring touchdowns.

I can't believe a Panthers' fan said Cam never got any better!

Riverboat!! Let's gamble!!

Lol, because Biakabutku tweeted that too! Even the players from way back hated the stench Rhule put on this franchise.

When I looked at his resume.

Who cares if he gets to San Fran? Shanahan better have his platinum turd shineola ready if they hoping he's going to be even a good clip board holder for them.

I still don't understand what made this guy such a hot coaching commodity for three offseasons. Only one year of NFL experience as an ASSISTANT offensive line coach with a mediocre Giants team. Yeah, he won at Temple. So did Al Golden who preceded him. He got an interview with the Colts after going 1-11 his first season at Baylor. Would have got the Jets job, but Jets management demanded he keep Gregg Williams as his DC and not bring in all of his college coaching buddies, so they went with Adam Gase. Tried to start a bidding war between the Giants and Panthers, but the Giants were smart enough not to engage in that for a college coach. Three seasons in Carolina, we still don't know what his expertise was. Is he an offense or defensive guy? It's not like he ever did anything innovative. Kliff Kingsbury didn't deserve his job in Arizona, but I can understand why he got it because the league is so thirsty for offense, and he had the Air Raid attack at Texas Tech (crazy to think he couldn't win with Patrick Mahomes). He really should be thankful for Tepper because his dream job was the Giants, and he would have gotten excoriated daily in that market. Now he can go on this revisionist history media tour and pretty much get no push back because the national media doesn't give a poo about small-market Carolina.

You were right as he is the biggest snakeoil salesman out there especially in the coaching world. I mean how the hell is Nebraska buying in with this lack of accountability? But the players who defended him, especially the Baylor and Temple players still would have been down because most of them don't have the talent to grace any other NFL roster. The others had to be toeing the company line.

Get em up out of here!