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And coming from a guy who was sitting in Matt Rhule's driveway when he returned from vacation to offer him a record breaking contract.

To me though that seems what Tepper has always wanted. He doesn't want a big larger than life character at QB. When they said they were really close on pulling the trigger on Richardson or Bryce and had excluded CJ, I was like we're taking Bryce. Since Tepper got rid of Ron and Cam, have we had a QB over 6'2" who wasn't plain, non seasoned, mushy rice to give to fans?

I just hate that Tepper went ultra safe and tried to sell it with the package of first QB to throw a TD in franchise history and pulled at the nostalgic heart strings. Wilks was a native son who legit was dealing with being put on the spot, injuries, and a laughable roster. My only reason I am not crazy down even though we are terrible is the fact that the roster is so bad. I read an article after we started losing at the first of last year on how far the Panthers were behind with roster talent due to Rhule backloading with bum Penn St, Baylor, and Temple players. And that angers me about the trades, because we needed those picks to rebuild the roster. @onmyown always talks about how we should have allowed the losses and truly rebuilt with what would be our high draft and high trade acquired picks. Instead we were led to believe that we could win now and traded all those acquired assets away. So there is little optimism with an owner who lets his trophy wife make way too many decisions, a retread coach, a roster devoid of talent, and what looks like a team that has one of the three phases(O,D,ST) finding a way to lose every game in this young season.

Here's to hoping the injury bug is behind him and he is dicing defenses up by year three like Tua.

I wonder what went through his and his wife's head when it was dead silence and everybody reacted like that! I mean thought he was a minority owner of the Steelers. Where did he get this crap from? I could see if he had been groomed as an owner under Daniel Snyder.

He definitely did. From people I know that work directly with organization(security), he thought it was campy and played out. A few weeks after I heard that, they tried that weird crap from Wolf of Wall Street with the chest pounding. He definitely feels more connected to that stupid bull as an aggressive hedge fund manager than to Keep Pounding.

I have heard this so much the past two weeks from local Panthers' fans in my area. The line being what really sucks is now the Bears are going to have two top five or top ten picks in next year's draft. I mean they could draft Drake Maye and Marvin Harrison Jr, giving them Maye, Harrison JR, and DJ Moore to go with a new coaching regime. Talk about getting fleeced! We could've done the same simply by having like @onmyown that tank season and amassing picks. The actual effects of losing and rebuilding are easier to swallow as a fan than this head barely above water facade we've been witnessing the last five years!

That is exactly the reasoning they use when they want to steer things a certain way. Tepper's connection to the Steelers organization gave him too large of a bump in their eval process. Anybody that rich is a shark one way or another though. Also, I yield. You were right. We should've traded Burns.

Yeah, when they had Dan Morgan and Fitterer get up so that she could take a call during the draft and made the call to trade for DJ Johnson, I was like man what is this! During the evaluation period CJ Stroud was talking about his interview with Ms. Tepper and I thought why is this trophy wife/former restaurant worker having any input in the draft process.

Raiders fan called him Carrbage for a reason. If we can get the pressure like we did on Ridder, he'll toss the D a couple.

Boom goes the dynamite! This thread is noodles!

I seen a graphic yesterday that laid out the superlatives of most of the playrs/team that Fields walked into at Ohio State after they got to the league and it was staggering! That's what I said about Bryce Sunday. He didn't have to worry about safeties playing the robber position at Alabama because if they did it was immediate over the top TDs due to the created players he had at WR. There were small windows for that Sunday, but he had to think he was making the easy play for the crossing route. He definitely would've been more apt to look deep on those coverages at Alabama. I seen him do it in the Tennessee game last year.

But that can be looked at two ways. Which do you think it is with him or both? 1. He needs those carries to get going. 2. The defense is worn and then he can inflict punishment from being a big back.

And people will jump on here talking about how lazy they were or how bad they played and have no clue what was happening to that player during the game.

I don't believe he has Ginn type world class speed, but Smith-Marsette is supposed to be a burner. Maybe he'll get a shot down the line.

It literally looked like the timing from old Saints teams. I was like if this is the level they want to operate at, then its going to take time. The comeback route misses at end of first half were an indication that these guys have to get more reps together. The downfield misses seemed like they just haven't been on the field together enough.

The whole Bates super day was because he was guessing right and our personnel. You can see up top that the WR didn't have any real separation. If that is say Tyreek Hill, Bates is out of position and that is an easy touchdown over the top. He knew he could sit on routes in the middle of the field all day, talent wise we had no answer, and Bryce has never not played with talent before that couldn't run off safety help. The guys he played with in college, no safety dare come off over the top help to jump middle of the field routes.

Lingering injury issues were/are definitely a problem, but our problem yesterday was the turnovers. 17pts off three turnovers. Two of those turnovers and the turnover on downs in first quarter came during or at the end of well orchestrated drives. They just have to clean some of that crap up!

Yeah, he'll be fine. Normally when you do that too its because your team is so devoid of talent that he would just get obliterated. Bryce has time to throw and these are just processing issues. Most of these kids are far too professional and polished these days for interceptions to kill their confidence say the way being pummeled behind a trash o-line killed say David Carr. One of the announcers said it best, P. Manning threw 28ints his rookie year and he was one of the best processors to put on a helmet. Also, a lot of Bryce's misses yesterday were timing issues that will get better with reps with these WRs. Hell, the two over throws yesterday one to Marshall and one to Mingo would've been easy pitch and catch to some of the guys he played with at Alabama.

Things are definitely different. Had friends where we would get up every Sunday to watch and analyze/cheer for every snap. We missed only like three games in Cam/Luke era. Before that, I watched every game even getting mentally upset if I missed a snap. In 02-03 season I had a friend show up to my SB party with a Patriots knit hat on and I made him drive 2 hours back home. Don't talk to that dude till this day and we were best friends in highschool. It was that serious! SB 50 and the following opening season crap! Drafting KB over Devante Adams and then him quitting on route in Chargers game in 17, the refs not calling the CB down, and Cam injuring his shoulder trying to make tackle were subtle punches to the gut. The Rhule/Cam debacle, Luke retiring because of how bad the Rhule hire was just deflated me. I seen Chad Pennington who already had a noodle arm hurt his shoulder and get two more jobs. Then to see Cam being explained away as done when he ran for more TDs in his MVP year than Teddy Two Gloves has ever thrown in his best season while our GM paid Teddy 60% of Cam's best contract was horseshite. I've said all that to say, I watch games, hope for them to be competent, but no real fervor.

Questioning effort when you don't know the play call or design is nonsense. Burns is a 3-4 linebacker now and not just a hand in the dirt defensive end. There were a couple of plays where he backed off tackle and obviously stood in a zone while a player blitzed up top. One play was a delayed stunt as the end kicked outside and Burns looped in behind him. These are sometimes the assignments in a 3-4. Find another player's effort to question, cause Burns wasn't the guy today.

Definitely bringing in all of those bum former players and "brand" guys are why we are devoid of depth for sure. I remember looking at final cuts a couple of weeks ago and was like wow they got rid of all of his guys that were even close to the fringe.

And on top of his potential, he is a locker room and coaches' dream. He is a quiet lead by example guy who works and goes home. Have people forgotten how volatile Hardy was and the black eye of several of our wilder players over the years?

All they heard and continue to hear was 1st round picks. You getting too deep for them.

That's why I was laughing last week when people were saying Saints were a lock to win the conference because they had the easiest SOS and Derek Carr. I was like based on what last year and D. Carr couldn't get it done with a smorgasbord of talent in Vegas.