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I really like this part, especially in regards to these two QBs already being out of the playoffs and everyone whining about what if all season. From Week 8 when Young took back over through the end of the season, PFF scored Young with an 83.7 passing grade, sixth best in the league over that span. Young was just ahead of Mayfield (83.3) and Sam Darnold (82.3), both of whom had short stints in Carolina before the Panthers decided to go all in on Young.

There was a pundit on a podcast who said that when we went on the close game run with a win here and there that Canales was "calling plays out of his mind". There were really some good wrinkles and some players being schemed open. I am excited to see what happens as personnel gets more experienced and we add some pieces.

Um, dude can really hold the point of attack. If they have a hankering in round 2, I wouldn't hate it.

It is because they wanted a AT clone in Ladd. XL was open all of the time and has game breaking ability. He after his rookie season needs surgery and has aspects of his game he needs to work on yes. Ladd also had so many more factors working for him. The first being he was not working against teams #1 corner hardly ever! They forget to mention things like that, or that he had an established QB throwing to him. People whine about XL and Bryce's chemistry, well Bryce wasn't the QB all year. Lastly, Ladd will never produce the results blocking on the perimeter that XL does. If XL is still struggling to catch in year two and three, then we can express that he was a bad pick.

Questioning of particular professional athletes and their offseason actions/work ethic, which include super common themes that all people in that region, age group engage in has always baffled me. All of the youth are on social media. Most southern people hunt for wild game.

Legette was always open. He needs to work on his hands, but we have seen this before. You have a guy come in with lingering injuries from college, gets surgeries, NFL rehab and break out. Also, finished products rarely come out of college. Everyone has something to work on as they become pros. So to the people definitively stating his ceiling, shut the fook up! AJ Brown couldn't catch a cold and had trouble with separation. Tyreek Hill had a limited route tree. All the other guys this year Nabors, Thomas, Ladd, none of them can block like XL and that is something they will have to work on to be better. Cut it out.

Way to come with the facts. I am tired of people whining over the Frazier. It didn't happen and Cade played very well this year! I know o-line play and the way we leveled up with the "answer on the roster" over what we had last year Bozeman was nothing short of amazing. This o-line coach has gotten so much more out of the guys on the roster from last year it isn't even funny. I believe we can only improve and there is no need to put any more resources into the line this offseason minus undrafted free agency.

Its because this is all a television show with production values and norms. The boom of behind the scenes footage has always been a big deal and this is reality tv that they don't have to script. There is levity, emotion, betrayal, tragedy, and triumph in an NFL team's offseason. They don't have to set up a day out with triggers to see a cast member's reaction. That is why there is such a boom with podcasts. Fans love to find out that Tim Duncan was a hilarious teammate from Tony Parker, or that Cam Newton was a stand out teammate who put team before self from Greg Olsen. Hard Knocks is compelling and it will be around for years to come like NFL films.

Same here, it was obvious that Penix struggles against the blitz yet we let him sit back rushing three on 3rd down most of the game. Also, 4-3 is just easier to outfit with players and there are some really good ends coming out this year. Hell, Clowney and Wonnum had their hands in the dirt the whole game every week anyways. 3-4 worked when there were guys like Gilbert Brown, Sam Adams, Goose, Ted Washington. Then your inside guys were Levon Kirkland paired with Kevin Greene on the outside. Its an antiquated defensive formula that requires very hard to find personnel. I wish they would move on from it.

7/10 is appropriate. He is doing some great stuff with play calling. You all wanted a young offensive mind, now you are saying he needs to not call plays. That is nonsense and there are a plethora of coaches that have won that way calling either their offensive or defensive systems full time. He made Bryce look competent after benching and then confident by the end of season. The last three points are for defense which can be remedied by moving on from Evero. Don't get me wrong, they missed a lot of production from guys being hurt and lost to free agency. But right now he has the stats to move on to a different coordinator where he can turn that side of the ball over to him. The culture has changed here and the biggest reason I know is J. Clowney. I have rarely seen that dude enjoy football as much as he did this year. Optimist bully!

And people are saying we need to go WR in round one. Yeah, lets do nothing to address the gaping hole at DT.

Your spellcheck, autocorrect, or whatever is failing you. Canales has been getting praise from many podcasts and sports media. He is getting quite a bit more out of this team than people imagined. They have loss five or more games by less than one score. That happens all the time during a rebuild/turn around. You have to learn how to win and part of that is penalties. There is positivity around the team now and the last thing they need to do is fire their head coach. They do have a lot of penalties, but they have been dealing with a new system, youth, and injuries all season long. It is just the way the cookie crumbles with those factors in play. Now please be quiet.

I second.

I'll say it, and I'm not a race baiter or any of that other nonsense people allude to after truth is told. One is black and one is white. Cam came into the league and set rookie passing records. Josh Allen couldn't hit the broad side of a barn until almost year three. People still insist Cam threw high, but we forget he reignited the career of a 5'9" WR named Steve Smith Sr. Cam's celebrating was seen as disrespectful and showboating. Allen's celebrating is seen as just good clean fun and exuberance. Cam shredded his shoulder trying to tackle a defender on an interception, but people still post GIFs of one time Cam didn't jump on a fumble anytime anyone mentions his name on social media. I have seen Allen throw picks and jog or walk back to the sideline and never be questioned by fans or media. Both had a veteran WR subtracted from their roster and had MVP seasons close after. You could argue that the MVP Allen is most likely to receive this year should go to S. Barkley, but Philly has robbed him of 12 or so TDs with that brotherly shove play. One was not protected at all by the league, and one gets flags thrown all the time. I seen this debate get really ugly last year on Facebook with fans acting like Cam was Trey Lance compared to Josh Allen and look how many posters who seen prime Cam chime in here to say Allen. Allen has gotten better every year making a monumental leap in year three, is on a tear this year, but he still hasn't gotten to the chip like Cam. Below is an excerpt from an article by Greg Howard during Prime Cam years and it still rings true today. We can act like we are past it, but we still have a long way to go in America. When you're a public figure, there are rules. Here's one: A public personality can be black, talented, or arrogant, but he can't be any more than two of these traits at a time. It's why antics and soundbites from guys like Brett Favre, Johnny Football and Bryce Harper seem almost hyper-American, capable of capturing the country's imagination, but black superstars like Sherman, Floyd Mayweather, and Cam Newton are seen as polarizing, as selfish, as glory boys, as distasteful and perhaps offensive.

Probably overcompensating because Cowboys fans hate when he's on the broadcast for their games for some reason

Especially for a guy as big and strong as him. He has literally had a pass ripped out of his arms from behind. No way that doesn't happen if he isn't injured. I can't believe it hasn't been addressed before now.

Just get Dani Dennis-Sutton later in the draft. Top pick is reserved for Mason!

You right, I wasn't because our team picks the guys we want about 4% of the time. I engage at first, but back away as the draft gets closer so as to not drive myself crazy like you all do. This is a miserable fan base indeed. There are centers every draft just like there are RBs every draft. Plus haven't you heard, it wouldn't have mattered who we drafted in the 2nd as we are cursed.

Wes was an assistant, became the head coach at UNCG, and won that conference a few times in like ten years. He was relegated to the NIT his first year at Cincinnati barely finishing above 500. He hasn't played a ranked team this year and still has one loss. Once they start playing decent teams like last year, they are going to start losing again. "He has built winning programs everywhere he's been as a head coach". That has only been two schools. Forgive my old feeble brain, but didn't Bill Guthridge take the Tar Heels to the Final Four twice? Hi. Yeah, I see this is going to go nowhere as Final Fours, championship game, conference title runs are considered flukes and lacks legitimacy on a coaching resume. What a guy really need is to win a few years at a bottom feeder school in a lower tiered conference to really get your engine revved up. I see you, I get it. Well not really or at all.

And Panthers' fans gonna Panthers' fan like every team doesn't do this. It is very easy with 100% certainty to say we should've got Frazier now due to ability to see what has materialized. They didn't have that in April. Also, Corbett looked great until injury, and Mays has looked good except a few low snaps. Look the center position is covered for the next few years or more and we didn't have to waste a 2nd rounder on it like Pittsburgh.

Hubert had a top 10 recruiting class last year with two top 10 recruits. Stop it duuuude. The kid went for the money. He is going to get north of $10 million to play at BYU. The family basically adopted George Lynch through this process and they have close ties to KJ Smith. It was money pure and simple, and if the Utah Jazz's owner didn't pay for the kid he would be a Tar Heel. Hubert had an outburst at the NIL collective meeting at the first of the season on lack of funds. UNC has to get with the times. Having said that, I wouldn't have paid that either for a six month player rental. Hubert won the ACC last year, had a top 10 recruiting class, and went to a National Championship in his first season. Wes Miller hasn't even played a ranked team yet and got beat by Villanova. Enough with the Wes Miller slobfest. How did he become a name that you have to hear over and over? Was it by having a mid-tier ACC coach run at UNCG? Man get the f*ck out of here with that! Only thing he can do better than Hubert Davis is make an easier non conference schedule. To the both of you, they are not going to fire Hubert Davis and underwhelming ass Wes Miller will never be the coach at UNC. Please quit acting like he is Roy at Kansas.

We need to go DL. Graham absolutely took over games this year and was the focal point of a national championship level defense last year. It will instantly shore up our run game and the guy can rush the passer. Yeah let's go get another WR a year after spending our first on one. Dan Morgan shouldn't even be thinking that Madden type of bull! TMAC is not a generational talent as more and more analysts are citing his lack of separation as well as his struggles with physical DBs. This is a no brainer and the only reason we are talking WR still is because XL currently has the dropsies.

First, I wasn't talking to you specifically. I was talking to the people labeling him a bust yesterday and this morning. Secondly, there are players who don't have it all together immediately. Hell, Marvin Harrison Jr is dropping passes as of late because his team is relying on him like WR1 his rookie year. We are doing the same with Legette. It takes most WRs, hell most players until year 3 to break out, putting it all together. The ones that play better early are usually on a really good team in a better organization/situation. That drop yesterday was brutal and the drops are an issue. People are acting like jugs machines don't exist and like they didn't see other WRs/TEs become better catchers overtime. I get your anger, frustration, and venting, what I won't cosign on is this he's a bust crap just cause Ladd Mcwhatever is having a decent rookie season catching routine passes while other WRs on his team run off the coverage.

Naw, because when you have a pedestrian, more quick than fast, coach on the field, QB at WR type player playing decently well in a much better situation as WR3 then you must come to your home team's message board and take a giant dump on your GM's 1st round pick because he isn't a complete HOF in every facet 13 games into his rookie season.