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That was almost all Jimmy Johnson. He had a specific system for trades and drafting that literally hit on every draft pick they made over those 2-3 years. That is why it blew up, because it was Jimmy, everybody knew it was Jimmy, and because Jerry's massive ego couldn't take it he shut down his only real successful stint as owner. He has made terrible decision after terrible decision, and we all know who to give the credit to now.

Yeah, the one that comes the mind the most was the Jamar Chase long touchdown vs. Cinci. He caught it in he middle of four or five players and none decided it worth tackling him and he sauntered all the way to the endzone. The biggest thing in the Luke, TD years was wherever you caught it, tried to break the line of scrimmage, you stopped right there!

That is on Chinn though. Apparently Thomas Davis begged Chinn to permanently move to LB and he wouldn't. He thought he could play DB and he can't. Washington hid him greatly this year, but he was flat out exposed in the NFC Championship game. The dude wants to play safety, but can't consistently cover. HIs rookie year, they played him close to the line and he made a few plays. He also looked lost whenever they asked him to do anything else. Washington signed him for chump change and because they are in transition, Quinn uses him to play downhill. Trust me, as soon as they can upgrade, Chinn will be done there too. Walker is a berserker with a high motor, who can cover and rush the passer. He can fit run gaps, diagnose plays, and is sideline to sideline fast. It will be much easier for Evero to find a place for him because he is a better player period. It is funny, you saying that Evero struggled to find a place for Chinn like that is a weakness when he found a place for Luvu. And Luvu struggled to get reps outside of STs before he came to Carolina.

Because people really dislike Cam Newton. Even when he was here doing all he did in Carolina, people really had serious deep seeded issues that had nothing to do with his play. It has just carried over and now they are using this as a chance to validate their point of view. Calling Cam desperate to stay relevant is insane. His show is huge, and ESPN has now anchored themselves to him, which means he is going nowhere for the foreseeable future. He was just trying to illustrate to a high draft pick that you aren't going to go to an immediate contender. Teams have a high draft pick for a certain reason. Surprise Steve Smith Sr. was mad and took it personal. Has he ever not taken anything as a super slight against him? The guy was about to fight Jerry Jeudy a few years ago while he was supposed to be doing pregame. He beat up two teammates, one for asking the position coach to review a play again! But what trumps Smitty's behavior, attitude issues, everyone's hate for Cam. Four players, four had something to say, but Stew, Thomas Davis, and others said nothing. The man was trying to put the kid up on game and these guys got in their feelings. It happens and will continue to happen as the athletes are telling us from their mouths how they feel on their platforms.

Yeah, when they started the there is a script handed out to all teams each season, I was floored. The nuances of planning and pulling off something on that scale would while keeping it secret is just nonsensical. Did they account for things like the Washington hailmary, tip passes, and other unpredictable occurrences every football season? Like @kungfoodude said, I have seen referees get into the flow of a game and struggle to get it under control, or just get swept up in the intensity of the crowd. I have literally seen a college basketball coach flip out on a ref caught up in the crowd pulse who had made four consecutive calls for the home team and they snapped out of it like they had been in a trance. Then the calls seemed to even out. It is human error plain and simple.

I also noticed how bad the officiating is in college sometimes. Dude was getting absolutely flat out tackled on some of those rushes with no flags. I get it, I would try to hold so my QB didn't get his brain scrambled too, but his motor needed to be rewarded some by the zebras. Just seeing his motor and add on the other superlatives, plus he's a native son, no brainer if he's there. These are the kinds of players that change and add to a good culture.

The reports were the same there as in New England. The inexperience of both coaches was so evident that the owners knew they had to move on immediately. The big things were scheduling and preparation were so inadequate, once you paired that with terrible in game decisions, and losses it was a wrap. Hence, now you have two grown ups in both places. The Raiders were looking for and elder statesman though for sure with the options in their search.

Ditto!

I really like this part, especially in regards to these two QBs already being out of the playoffs and everyone whining about what if all season. From Week 8 when Young took back over through the end of the season, PFF scored Young with an 83.7 passing grade, sixth best in the league over that span. Young was just ahead of Mayfield (83.3) and Sam Darnold (82.3), both of whom had short stints in Carolina before the Panthers decided to go all in on Young.

There was a pundit on a podcast who said that when we went on the close game run with a win here and there that Canales was "calling plays out of his mind". There were really some good wrinkles and some players being schemed open. I am excited to see what happens as personnel gets more experienced and we add some pieces.

Um, dude can really hold the point of attack. If they have a hankering in round 2, I wouldn't hate it.

It is because they wanted a AT clone in Ladd. XL was open all of the time and has game breaking ability. He after his rookie season needs surgery and has aspects of his game he needs to work on yes. Ladd also had so many more factors working for him. The first being he was not working against teams #1 corner hardly ever! They forget to mention things like that, or that he had an established QB throwing to him. People whine about XL and Bryce's chemistry, well Bryce wasn't the QB all year. Lastly, Ladd will never produce the results blocking on the perimeter that XL does. If XL is still struggling to catch in year two and three, then we can express that he was a bad pick.

Questioning of particular professional athletes and their offseason actions/work ethic, which include super common themes that all people in that region, age group engage in has always baffled me. All of the youth are on social media. Most southern people hunt for wild game.

Legette was always open. He needs to work on his hands, but we have seen this before. You have a guy come in with lingering injuries from college, gets surgeries, NFL rehab and break out. Also, finished products rarely come out of college. Everyone has something to work on as they become pros. So to the people definitively stating his ceiling, shut the fook up! AJ Brown couldn't catch a cold and had trouble with separation. Tyreek Hill had a limited route tree. All the other guys this year Nabors, Thomas, Ladd, none of them can block like XL and that is something they will have to work on to be better. Cut it out.

Way to come with the facts. I am tired of people whining over the Frazier. It didn't happen and Cade played very well this year! I know o-line play and the way we leveled up with the "answer on the roster" over what we had last year Bozeman was nothing short of amazing. This o-line coach has gotten so much more out of the guys on the roster from last year it isn't even funny. I believe we can only improve and there is no need to put any more resources into the line this offseason minus undrafted free agency.