Davidson Deac II

If we improve the line, but keep Sam, then it won't matter. Most of Darnold's interceptions are just bad decisions on his part, made when he has more time. If there is a qb available with our first round pick that we think will be good, then we take him. If we have to let him sit a year while we improve the offensive line, so be it. But qb is the most critical position on the field, bar none. And very few draft picks turn into good qb's. Not that I trust this staff to do an assessment or develop a qb.

As far as the individual qb's, don't know. As far as the class overall, the experts and the huddle members say its bad, and they are usually wrong, so it will probably be a good class overall.

Saban realized he couldn't coach at the NFL level and abandoned ship. Hopefully, Rhule will do the same.

Cam is done, and Sam was done before he ever signed with us.

It was college all stars vs the NFL champs. I vaguely remember watching the last one. Steelers dominated. And yeah, as the years went by and the NFL got closer to what it is today, they began to dominate more and more.

A great college coach who failed in the NFL because he couldn't deal with grown men. And a bunch of grown men who were stars in college game. Alabama would be lucky to score even three points.

With ease. Its grown men versus 19/20 year old kids. In fact, I would be shocked if Alabama even scored.

Saints have a great defense and a shot at the playoffs. We have a terrible offense that gets shut down by below average defenses. I would be shocked if we win. I will be shocked if we get in the end zone even once.

Agreed. I don't think he is a very good NFL coach, and his decisions, especially irt qb are baffling to say the least. But hate, nah not really.

Tanking doesn't work. But I am hoping that if we lose enough and by enough points, Rhule will be gone.

Hill or Trevor S will be back next week. But their offense will still suck. However, its likely their defense will score enough to win the game.

Ah ok, fair enough

Maybe he will, but what does Covid test results have to with that?

I didn't say that the Henderson trade was a bad one, only that it helped put us in a bad position regarding rebuilding the oline thru the draft next year, in that we gave up a third to get him. Combine that with the Darnold deal, and we don't have many picks to use on offensive line next year, especially if we draft a QB with the first. If we sign anyone decent at qb, its going to cost a significant amount of cap space. Given that we will already have a lot tied up in Sam, its going to be hard to sign both decent oline and a quarterback. Not impossible, but not easy.

We may not have a choice. We owe Sam to much money last year to cut him and sign anyone that is even decent. From a fiscal perspective, keeping Sam and drafting a qb is really the only choice. But its going to be hard to fix the Oline this offseason unless we spend our very limited amount of picks on Oline. Fixing the Oline thru free agency is expensive, as oline is at a premium. The Darnold trade (and to a lesser extent, the Henderson trade), really put us in a bad position. Fortunately, the bad position is short term.

Over a period of 1-2 games, perhaps. But over an entire season, these things tend to work themselves out. That being said, a defense shouldn't be penalized in rankings if the offense turning the ball over at the 10. If the other team starts out with the ball on the the 10 yard line, then that defense has its back against the wall and the offense is almost assured of scoring regardless. The rules favor the offense to such a degree nowadays, that you can take an average offense, put it against the best defense in the NFL, and 9 times out of 10, the average offense will score if it starts out inside the other team's 20. Of course, our offense wouldn't, but then its far below average, so guess it doesn't count in my scenario. And this is my opinion, but I think you are ignoring the mental aspect of it. If the offense is consistently turning the ball over, and providing no help to the defense, and the defense knows that they probably aren't going to win regardless of how they play, it eventually begins to impact the play of the defense. I see this year in and year out on bad teams. Defense starts the season making plays, but the offense keeps putting them in bad situations, and eventually, the defense looks like our does today. Or vice versa.

Anything other than stats is just an opinion and is probably flawed. That being said, its clear the team (with one or two exceptions) has given up and is already thinking about the offseason.

I think tanking for draft picks rarely (if ever) works. But if we can get blown out these last three games, that might convince Tepper that hiring a college coach was stupid and he needs to correct it. So tank to get rid of Rhule.

We look like our coaching staff is a bunch of college guys.

Quarterback is far and away the most valuable position on the field. If we think that Pickett, or anyone else is going to be a solid quarterback, then we take him. Period, end of discussion. Then we sit him for a year, throw Darnold out there (or whomever else we sign), rebuild the oline, and maybe spend most of our picks the following year on the Oline. As far as the comments about this year's class not being that strong, there is no way to know that until they start playing on Sunday. But I definitely don't want Rhule doing the assessments on the QB. He has to many failures in that regard.

The passing game as a whole is the problem. Can't block, can't throw, and at times, can't catch.

Maybe, possibly. But national championships in college are more about the program. If you aren't at one of the elite ones, you aren't winning a national championship, no matter how good you are.

Like Urban Meyer? I would never hire a college coach to begin with, unless he had significant NFL experience. But if I did, national championships would not be a requirement. Winning a National Championship in college is as much or perhaps more about the program you are coaching as it is about your abilities as a coach. One can be the greatest coach in the history of football but not win a national championship at Duke. Or be a below average NFL coach, but win multiple championships at Alabama.

There may be some truth to this, but I don't think you can blame the fans for some of the head scratching moves. Cutting Cam, signing Bridgewater, trading Bridgewater, then trading for Darnold, only to bring Cam back, trading draft picks and Arnold for Henderson, etc... I think that fans would have been far more understanding if they had truly went for a rebuild, instead of this odd mix of building for a future while trying to win now.

And Rex Grossman.