Davidson Deac II

Agreed. I don't think he is a very good NFL coach, and his decisions, especially irt qb are baffling to say the least. But hate, nah not really.

Tanking doesn't work. But I am hoping that if we lose enough and by enough points, Rhule will be gone.

Hill or Trevor S will be back next week. But their offense will still suck. However, its likely their defense will score enough to win the game.

Ah ok, fair enough

Maybe he will, but what does Covid test results have to with that?

I didn't say that the Henderson trade was a bad one, only that it helped put us in a bad position regarding rebuilding the oline thru the draft next year, in that we gave up a third to get him. Combine that with the Darnold deal, and we don't have many picks to use on offensive line next year, especially if we draft a QB with the first. If we sign anyone decent at qb, its going to cost a significant amount of cap space. Given that we will already have a lot tied up in Sam, its going to be hard to sign both decent oline and a quarterback. Not impossible, but not easy.

We may not have a choice. We owe Sam to much money last year to cut him and sign anyone that is even decent. From a fiscal perspective, keeping Sam and drafting a qb is really the only choice. But its going to be hard to fix the Oline this offseason unless we spend our very limited amount of picks on Oline. Fixing the Oline thru free agency is expensive, as oline is at a premium. The Darnold trade (and to a lesser extent, the Henderson trade), really put us in a bad position. Fortunately, the bad position is short term.

Over a period of 1-2 games, perhaps. But over an entire season, these things tend to work themselves out. That being said, a defense shouldn't be penalized in rankings if the offense turning the ball over at the 10. If the other team starts out with the ball on the the 10 yard line, then that defense has its back against the wall and the offense is almost assured of scoring regardless. The rules favor the offense to such a degree nowadays, that you can take an average offense, put it against the best defense in the NFL, and 9 times out of 10, the average offense will score if it starts out inside the other team's 20. Of course, our offense wouldn't, but then its far below average, so guess it doesn't count in my scenario. And this is my opinion, but I think you are ignoring the mental aspect of it. If the offense is consistently turning the ball over, and providing no help to the defense, and the defense knows that they probably aren't going to win regardless of how they play, it eventually begins to impact the play of the defense. I see this year in and year out on bad teams. Defense starts the season making plays, but the offense keeps putting them in bad situations, and eventually, the defense looks like our does today. Or vice versa.

Anything other than stats is just an opinion and is probably flawed. That being said, its clear the team (with one or two exceptions) has given up and is already thinking about the offseason.

I think tanking for draft picks rarely (if ever) works. But if we can get blown out these last three games, that might convince Tepper that hiring a college coach was stupid and he needs to correct it. So tank to get rid of Rhule.

We look like our coaching staff is a bunch of college guys.

Quarterback is far and away the most valuable position on the field. If we think that Pickett, or anyone else is going to be a solid quarterback, then we take him. Period, end of discussion. Then we sit him for a year, throw Darnold out there (or whomever else we sign), rebuild the oline, and maybe spend most of our picks the following year on the Oline. As far as the comments about this year's class not being that strong, there is no way to know that until they start playing on Sunday. But I definitely don't want Rhule doing the assessments on the QB. He has to many failures in that regard.

The passing game as a whole is the problem. Can't block, can't throw, and at times, can't catch.

Maybe, possibly. But national championships in college are more about the program. If you aren't at one of the elite ones, you aren't winning a national championship, no matter how good you are.

Like Urban Meyer? I would never hire a college coach to begin with, unless he had significant NFL experience. But if I did, national championships would not be a requirement. Winning a National Championship in college is as much or perhaps more about the program you are coaching as it is about your abilities as a coach. One can be the greatest coach in the history of football but not win a national championship at Duke. Or be a below average NFL coach, but win multiple championships at Alabama.

There may be some truth to this, but I don't think you can blame the fans for some of the head scratching moves. Cutting Cam, signing Bridgewater, trading Bridgewater, then trading for Darnold, only to bring Cam back, trading draft picks and Arnold for Henderson, etc... I think that fans would have been far more understanding if they had truly went for a rebuild, instead of this odd mix of building for a future while trying to win now.

And Rex Grossman.

College games are being cancelled at an increasing pace. Louisville/Ky and Wake Forest/BC are cancelled. I think BC will have to forfeit. FSU and Syracuse both list games as postponed. Hopefully, this is just a temporary anomaly and not a harbinger of things to come.

If I had a dollar for every time I have heard similar words about an NFL quarterback, I would probably be a rich man. Just about any NFL level quarterback can look good for a short time. Sam Darnold looked good for a short time. Even in Darnold's first season with the Jets, there were times people would say, if he can just clean up the turnovers, he is going to be great. A few do clean it up, most do not. If he can get to the point were he can look good consistently, and bad games become a rare thing, then he is a franchise qb. Until that time though, he is just another guy with potential. That is also true for Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, and Mack Jones.

Maybe they do, maybe they don't. Probably won't know for at least two more seasons. Right now, all they know is he turns the ball over a lot.

I would say let Darnold play, draft someone and let him hold a clipboard for a year, ala Mahomes. Or cut Darnold, sign Cam, and let him play while we draft someone and let him hold a clipboard for a year, just as Mahomes did.

In my opinion, when Rhule traded for Darnold, and was unwilling to draft either Fields or Jones, he essentially bet his future on a guy who had failed in NY. Darnold succeeding here was a longshot and a huge gamble on Rhule's part. A gamble he lost. Signing Cam was a move that had little chance of paying off, but it was low risk, so why not. But he has failed as well, and due to those failures, Rhule should be looking for another job after the season is over. Hopefully Tepper learned his lesson and hires an NFL coach. Preferably one who puts a staff in place to develop the qb that we should be drafting. It will be interesting to see if the new staff (and god I hope there is a new staff) signs Cam for another year to work in a new QB, or lets Darnold go out there and get beat up while the new guy holds a clipboard and they try to make the oline better.

Any? Trevor Siemian sure ain't succeeding.

All the receivers played well today. They just didn't get many opportunities.

The sad thing is that if we had even average play on the offensive side of the ball, we would have a decent shot at the division this year. Tampa has looked vulnerable the last few weeks, and with their receivers possibly out, we could beat them with a decent effort from the offense.