Soul Rebel

Disagree. I think it's the coaching, scheme and personnel that are making the difference. Put Bryce in Houston and the results are similar to what CJ7 is doing. Put Stroud in Carolina and fans would be second guessing why we didn't take Bryce. Everything about how we're built and how players are being used is awful. We had a decent OL last year, we forced square pegs into round holes. We had a balanced RB room last year, signed a new RB into a scheme that doesn't fit his skills. Our version of Nico Collins is TMJ....we see how that turned out. Downs was available, we passed on him. Schultz was available....we brought in Hurst. Ryans was never going to be the guy we wanted nor did he want to come here, but Steichen was. He supposedly gaffed the interview, but Reich and his clown car of "All Star" league of extraordinary gentlemen was superior. Wrong. I'm not saying Bryce hasn't had a frustrating rookie year full of mistakes, but to think Stroud would look how he has here and Bryce would be this trash QB in Houston is doing a disservice to Houston's franchise and looking past how broken our front office is.

I'm surprised nobody has posted a Pickens comment and if we would kick the tires. I know he's taken plays off this year and looks checked out, but I've also seen reports that it's being overblown and he's not selifsh nor has a bad attitude. Young kid that's frustrated not getting the ball and doesn't know how to communicate this properly. Could be a head case. Could be a 23-year old that fits the exact archetype of WR we need for Bryce. Probably cheaper than Jameson, Aiyuk, DK, etc.

Would love for him to make it to 65. Doubt he does. Franklin/Polk/Worthy at 33 JPJ at 65 Kick Icky inside Play BC at LT Higgins in FA

Happy with the direction of an outside firm, now will Tepper listen to the analysis and suggestions? I like Morgan and if he can stick around to help with the transition and NOT be the new GM, I'd be happy with that. Morgan might not be Fitterer, but we need a clean slate up top and Morgan too closely resembles Fitterer's thinking for me. To go from Fitts to Morgan seems too much like the thinking that has us in our current situation. I'd love to be wrong about Morgan as a GM. Former Panther, history of success with other organizations. Please don't make this outside consultant agency be Tepper's PR move to smooth out the rocky road he's created, only to be a distraction while he continues to do what he wants.

May I ask what it is about MacDonald that makes him a more attractive HC candidate than Evero for us specifically?

I think this B.Johnson is my least favorite of the candidates. I've seen enough Iggles fans moan about his boring an complacent style. Not sure how much of that is HC related or if BJ is calling the plays. This would be a very unwise move, IMO.

Where was the game played last week? Oh that's right.....thx again, Tepp! Turf toe is no joke. Sucks it's 8 given his history, but I get it. 2 games left in the year, he needs to be 100% next year for his own sake whether it's here in Carolina or elsewhere in ''25.

So, you're saying......

Tagging him if we pull off a S&T looks like the most economical option. YGM has had the better overall year between he and Burns. He might not pop as much, but way more consistent and productive this year. Evero unlocked his potential. Adding a true NT like Maduibuike or Wilkins beside DB will open up our pass rush more.

I think we can rely heavily on AT, Mingo and ISM IN 2024. I think ISM is young enough to be the eventual slot replacement for Thielen after ‘24. Mingo can have that AJ Brown trajectory and be good….potentially really good in a year or two. Landing Higgins would be huge and then getting another game changing offensive weapon in R2 is paramount. I do agree that Tremble has improved enough to see if another year with a more competent coaching staff can etch his name in pen rather than pencil long-term. He plays with purpose and a chip on his shoulder….we need that. IOL is on the roster, IMO. Two of BC, Mays, Zavala & Icky can hold down the two IOL spots. Maybe Icky and BC swap spots and we’re set. I’m not banking on it, but it’s a possibility. Regardless, our first two picks should be WR & OL. Bring in Higgins & Madiubuike in FA.

We are the most recent iteration of the Cardinals/Jets/Jaguars/Texans.

Or even worse.....take a gamble with a 2024 draft pick to replace him.

Agree fully with this. I just keep coming back to Evero on this. Perhaps a guy like Klint Kubiak is the next Slowik, but for OC. I do agree that Slowik is intriguing, while possibly being a year or two early for a HC gig.

This unit is still transitioning too an odd-front as its' base. He was sifting through guys like Tuttle, Williams and Houston off the scrap heap. Let him have a more prominent role in the decision making process as HCs do.

The Houston FA signing is another example of Fitts' trash decisions, but it also leads to one of Fitterer's biggest mistakes....not making Reddick part of the plans. I get Reddick wanted to go back home, but we were building something here and I think if the team showed more of an interest from the jump and genuinly wanted him back, he stays. We helped wipe the stank off his AZ days, played to his strengths, and he thrived here. Much like many of Fitts' moves, his make-up moves are bad....but the initial root of "why" he's needing to make that move, is usually worse (signing Baker after Darnold, after Bridgewater.....trading DJ and then pining for how awful our WR core is). Way too many of these.

Johnson is the dream. Harbaugh is the vet culture changer that can fix Bryce. Neither are coming here. Belichick would not come to this much of a project at his age and history. I see him in LA or somewhere with more pieces to the puzzle in place. Panthers fans need to be comfortable with either Evero, Slowik, Smith or O'Brien. Truthfully, Evero is going to make the most sense and deserves his shot. Learn from the Wilks mistake. I also think Flores could be a darkhorse, but I doubt he wants to go another round with an undersized 'Bama rookie QB.

Mannnnnn, there are gonna be a lot of receipts in a couple of years depending on how this goes. A lot to walk-back and some delicious crow to eat. Should be interesting.

I don't know enough of how deep an organization is into the offseason, at this time of year. Based off other folks smarter than me with how front offices' run, it makes no more sense to fire a GM and his band of merry men midseason than it does on Black Monday. If it's inevitable and this is the move (the correct move FTR), I'm happy for a new regime. SF is arguably more responsible for this awful 1-12 product than Reich was.

Two points here.... - The Alabama deep ball numbers are concerning because you have to hit on that at the NFL level. I didn't see his 2022 numbers there....I wonder if those are better after a year as the starter? - Look at how few attempts he's made on a per game basis before yesterday. Kinda hard to get comfortable if you never do it. The connection with your WRs, their tendencies, confidence, etc. has been a non-factor for the first 12 games. Biggest thing I noticed yesterday was our desire and execution of forcing the ball downfield. I loved it even though he was off. This will come with reps. More talent at the skill positions will help too. Having a running game adds another layer.

I didn't go through all 16 pages, but I think BY will be fine. Rookie mistakes? Yup. Does he look like the "point guard" "doesn't need elite talent...." cerebral QB that doesn't lose? Nope. He is in the midst of a sh!t show offense that I can't remember in my 25+ years of watching this team. He's broken, but not unfixable. There's no easy fix, but a few big time FAs that support him, move Icky to LG and hit on day 2/3 draft picks will go a long way. He's owning mistakes. He's owning other's mistakes and taking it on like a leader does. He gets knocked down 10 times, he gets up 11. His passes don't get batted. He's staying healthy despite getting destroyed week in and week out. First fix though....hiring the correct GM/HC partnership. If we F that up, Bryce is cooked.

Can we also do Steichen over Reich? Steichen/Stroud was the right answer.

Steeler fans want Tomlin out in PIT. Defensive HC - check Veteran leader - check Who does he bring on O?

If Icky is what we think he will be at LG, I would think that would benefit BC at LT. BC has been good, not great thus far. With a LOT of time off the past year plus, I think he could return to LT in the right scheme next to Icky. Signing a vet in FA or after cuts would be wise too. Donovan Smith is no spring chicken but on a short deal, could make sense. Worst case, Icky to LG and BC to RG for Corbett insurance until Zavala is ready.

I think, as others have pointed out as well, that Ben Johnson is the preferred route, but doubt we are his choice. At that point, Harbaugh looks like the strongest and wisest move to make at this point. This sh!t show in Charlotte needs to be gutted and rebuilt. Harbaugh is the top candidate to do this successfully. Seeing what JH did with Alex Smith and Kaep, I think it also helps Bryce get his confidence back if it truly is as shaken as it appears. Our OL is already partially built for Harbaugh's style and we might be able to keep the only good coach on this staff in Evero with his previous ties to JH in SF.