Soul Rebel

Sidebar - didn't realize Reich and McAfee were tight. Can someone that has clout slide into his DMs to get some dirt on where Reich's head is at?

Excellent work Mr. Scot! It's a battle of two coaches with HC experience, had to overcome awful QB situations (one being washed vets; the other being former FRPs that flopped). Both also had rough ownership issues at their respective previous stops that led to unfair firings. I give the edge to Reich because he has won a SB as an OC, has a good coaching tree and brings an offensive approach for the first time in our franchise's history.

Bad HC, solid OC. The AR soap opera begins in Jersey.....Jets making power moves. I wonder if Reich/Wilks would bring in a guy like LaFleur for our OC. HC: Reich or Wilks OC: Mike LaFleur DC: Vic Fangio QB1: Brisett (bridge) - draft Stroud/Young/Levis/Richardson

I do wonder if hired, would Brissett be the vet bridge-QB brought in while Reich's rookie gets acclimated. Not a bad 2019 campaign with almost 3k yards/18TD/6INTs. 6-4, 235 and just turned 30 last month.

Reich as the hire makes sense if you take Tepper on his word from the beginning. He wanted an offensive mind vs. defensive..... and someone with experience. Reich checks both boxes. He was good, not great in Indy and had a much maligned couple years there getting to do things his way. 5 different starting QBs - most at the end of their respective careers. He did have an 11-5 year and a 10-6 year too. What he did with Foles in Philly and never having a young QB to groom in IND gives me hope. He's been around some talented staffs and his up-tempo, RPO-heavy offense (with a few West Coast tweaks) is what I like to watch. If he could bring Fangio and Deuce Staley with him as DC/OC and draft our future QB this year, I think we would be in a better place. I'm unsure if he will ever be a top-tier superb HC, but I would like to see what he can do in Carolina being less hamstrung as he was with the Colts. He helped mold JTaylor into a top-5 NFL RB too. His HC tree looks pretty good so far with Sirriani and Eberflus being HCs and Gannon probably getting a HC gig this cycle. We already have a good base in place...just need to cultivate the young seedlings. Reich's experience could be the answer. My preference is : 1 - Steichen, 2A - Reich, 2B - Wilks

I saw that Jeremy Fowler reported that the Jets and IIRC, the Chargers would like to interview Reich for OC. IF other NFL teams want to bring him in as an OC, I do wonder if a Wilks-Reich pairing would make the most sense vs. giving Reich the keys to the car as HC. Still on Team Steichen....just waiting patiently with bated breath.

Knowing Newton's history with errors, maybe he meant the 93rd pick and not the ninth.....

67% comp rate, 30 TD at NDSU with 1 Int is far from dreadful. In the NFL as a 21 & 22-year old youngster his stats are far from desirable, but as a 21 & 22 year old making a leap....I'm okay with it. It wasn't until year 3 that Josh Allen hit his stride.

That's what I mean in that they would hold out on a HC despite Steichen's virtual. Hold off until they can bring Steichen back in and then make our hire.

So if we interview Kafka today, Payton on Monday and already did with Dorsey yesterday and don't announce a hire by Wednesday/Thursday, would Steichen be perceived as the leader in the clubhouse?

Interesting that he has three interviews the day after getting smoked by the Eagles in a playoff road loss. Should speak highly of how he handles adversity and mental fortitude.

Going from NDSU to Kyle Shannahan is not just jumping from FCS to the NFL, but a much bigger leap. IF it was a day 3 pick(s) going back to SF, I'd take a shot on Lance. He was a number three overall that SF gave up A LOT for. Yes he was injured and didn't look the greatest in his limited time. I think the experience, film room and locker room that Lance was in can't be quantified. Someone will benefit from SF taking on the liability and growing pains. Lance also turned 22 last May....he was always a developmental QB that needed patience. I bet Steichen/Kafka would love to have Lance in the fold here in Carolina.

Steichen, please. Save the draft capital from Payton. Take the QB that is there at 9. Save draft capital from moving up. AR is probably the guy and with a guy like Steichen, I think he fits what the HC wants in a QB1. If Steichen is a QB whisperer (Rivers, Herbert, Hurts) and brings an OC that is in lockstep with Steichen's Air Coryell style, I think we are in a good place. Maybe he brings Minshew with him for a year or two....maybe we bring Carr in for a couple of years.... who knows. All of these HC candidates come with concerns. Every...single....one of them.

Agree with this and hopefully keeping Campen too. I heard Billy and John Ellis talking about the OL Coach in Philly being a legend in the NFL. If Steichen comes, he might perhaps bring Istvan with him.... a guy that should carry on the prestige that Stoutland has earned in Philly.

The article says this was just implemented by the League in October of 2022 and it’s the first hiring cycle since it’s been in place. They will make her do the training, publicly embarrass the franchise like it’s some well-established policy…even though it’s not, and will keep it moving. It does speak poorly about how Tepper runs the show, but not as shocking as the headline was meant to be.

Who's he bringing with him? DC - Rumored to be Holcomb. Nope. OC - Rumored to be Brian Johnson. Great hire....probably a HC in two years. If we want experience, go with Payton. If we want our OC poached in two years and have a mediocre record with spikes of excitement sprinkled in, go with Wilkes. Love Wilkes the man....prefer not to be our HC.

I'm good waiting a year to see what we have with Brandon Smith and if a new DC will play Chinn more like a hybrid LB/SAF. I think Luvu - Shaq - Chinn, with Smith rotating in would suffice for '23. For me, bigger needs at QB, TE, DE, DT and SAF...potentially WR and CB3 too.

Riiiiiiiiight........sure thing there Loomis.

Payton is the best all-around HC candidate compared to the others. He will bring a winning culture to Charlotte. He will get us into the playoffs consistently and potentially run the NFCS for a few years. His experience and knowledge of the game will have everyone from the vets to the water boy bought in, IMO. There comes a fair amount of baggage with the hire though....polarizing personality, potential GM/control needs, losing draft assets, bringing in vet QB that we might not all want. If we want to win consistently for the next 5-7 years and be a threat in the NFC each year, Payton is the guy. It's what you want to give up from your draft picks, salary cap and your soul to get there. That's not to say that Steichen, Reich, Wilkes or Kafka couldn't get us there.....it's just less likely.

Do. Not. Want. Ireland. I want Payton pending a few details, but I really like what Fitts is doing. Really seems like Steichen + Brian Johnson + Stroud/Levis/Richardson + experienced DC would be the best move.

I think a lot comes into focus on Monday. One of Kafka/Steichen will be available, Payton will have been interviewed and Evero gets his opportunity today. It just feels like Wilks, Reich & Caldwell will be a lot of the same we've known for the past two decades. Payton is the marquee best option if we want success. Steichen, Kafka, Evero for the young up-and-coming guy that we can draft a QB with and grow long-term....I just wonder the PTSD after Rhule's stint here. I wish there was a way to have enough ammo to bring in Payton annnnnnd trade for Lamar. If we re-sign Boze and Foreman, with Fangio running the D and Lamar at QB under Payton's watchful eye we would be NFC favorites for the next 5-7 years.

Wow...all of the media hype was pointing to Johnson too. Gotta be Payton at this point. I doubt Johnson would back out up against Steichen. I also think we've almost equaled the number of coaches that backed out versus ones that have formally interviewed.... Ryans, Mayo, Johnson backed out. It's in the tea leaves..... Fangio, DC interviews, Johnson backing out. We just better hope there's no tampering involved in relation to the Rooney rule.

I love these three picks by Brugler....someone that is one of the most tapped in scouts/analysts out there. Moving up to 5 seems more realistic than going up to 1 or 3. We would be able to retain most of our valued picks without giving up the farm. Stroud is my favorite of the three and would take care of our biggest glaring need. Pairing Stroud & Gibbs w/ Steichen-Brian Johnson or Johnson-Duce Staley/Brunell with a re-signed Bozeman would be an outstanding start. Also, the DL out of Georgia Tech that we took at 60 is also a low-key promising/upside draft pick. He's freaky athletic at 6'5" 285 and from NC originally.

Lamar + Steichen + Brian Johnson would be outstanding seeing what these two did with Hurts.

Sooooo…… Wilks + Brian Johnson + ?? (Holcomb maybe) Johnson + Duce Staley/Brunell + Manuel Steichen + Brian Johnson + ?? (Manuel maybe) If Wilks is dead set on Holcomb as DC, I think he’s out. I was more of a Steichen guy, but not mad if Johnson gets the HC gig. I LOVE Duce Staley as OC. He’s fiery and has an aggressive approach to go for the jugular.