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Marc Ryan - "Carolina Zeroed in on Stroud and Richardson"
Soul Rebel replied to CPcavedweller's topic in Carolina Panthers
Too much....unless we're sending back #39. I'll take #33 and maybe toss a sixth back in it to make it a bit more balanced. With 33 and 39 we can make some moves or add two talented starters. Especially if we give up #39 for Jeudy. It may not come to fruition, but these smokescreens, though they seem all over the place, can't hurt. Worst case, we pick our guy at 1. -
Marc Ryan - "Carolina Zeroed in on Stroud and Richardson"
Soul Rebel replied to CPcavedweller's topic in Carolina Panthers
Exactly. You keep DJ, move up to 3 and are still getting one of Stroud, Young, AR...possibly the '25 second rounder too. -
One of Jeudy, Sutton, Moore, Chark, Hardman, Thielen or Nuk will be a Panther by this weekend. Something is in the works...we just don't know what.
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Well, Casillas' guy posted something around this time after the meeting earlier this week from CLT airport. I know we have nobody at the airport, but if Chark were to sign, I'm guessing he would still be at Mint St. hammering out deals currently. Should hopefully hear something either way in the next couple of hours. EDIT: I'm on PST, so for the NC folks, it would be 2:31 EST.
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I doubt Chark will ever be a WR1 though he has the most potential of this group given his size and speed. I think our true WR1/shiny new toy for our new QB is not going to be found during FA/trades. Potentially in the draft, but 2024 is the year to find that guy. In the mean time, I'll take a shot on a 6'4" 4.3 WR that, when healthy, can be a 70-1100-8TD guy. Still prefer Hardman over him, but will be stoked if we land either of them.
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Love it. Arguably the top WR in FA too....he and Meyers were 1A and 1B. Didn't Chark and Laviska play together in JAX?
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This would make me more sad than losing out on Parris. Hardman, though never confused with a WR1, can certainly be a complimenatary 2 with ST skills too.
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Please don't take this as me wanting to trade Chinn, but I wonder if there have been talks about us trading Chinn to DEN for one of their WRs. I think Chinn will THRIVE in Evero's D, but others might see the past two years and the current roster and wonder if he's expendable. He's also a UFA in '24, so if he balls out in Evero's scheme, could be a big payday awaiting. We'll have the money, but just trying to look at all sides.
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That was the other WR that was reported prior to tampering week that we were interested in. Truthfully, he's better than Parris, over a year younger, faster and more production. If we bring in Hardman or Chark, it's a dub. Campbell made sense here and offered the allure of what could be when healthy, but I don't see that true #2 ability that Hardman and Chark demonstrate.
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Big Board & Pick 39: Offensive Skill Player Rankings
Soul Rebel replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
Great topic. I know I'm in the minority on two things - not high on Josh Downs and I think Tillman is the better NFL WR at Tennessee. I'd prefer to trade the 39 for Jeudy or Nuk, but if we are picking there, we take the BPA of WR/TE. My ideal dream scenario: Trade #1 + 4th to HOU for #2 + #33 (Stipulation that they draft Young and do not trade out of that slot so we get CJ7). Use our #39 pick in a trade for Jeudy or Hopkins Draft Flowers at 33. Stroud Sanders-Hubbard-Blackshear Jeudy-TMJ-Flowers-Shenault Hurst-Tremble-Thomas -
Really feeling one of the Broncos WRs comes here via trade....maybe outside shot of Hopkins with the ties to South Carolina. Adrian Wilson can't hurt and the kinship with our newest DT too.
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I'd love to pluck Elijah Moore from their roster, but CD wouldn't be a bad option either. I do think Davis goes back to GB as part of the comp package for Rodgers.
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I like Ian Thomas more today than I did yesterday. Very selfless move and seems like a win-win. I would still like for us to draft a TE in R3 this year given how deep it is...I'm sure one of the big names will slip. With Hurst here, Thomas expiring next year and Tremble's upside, we have a two-year window to find our future stud TE. Either way, I think this staff will get Tremble into a top-flight TE2 and potentially low-end TE1. He was very raw coming out of ND....good thing the OC's specialty is TEs.
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Trade #39 for Jeudy. Draft Tillman or AT Perry. Maybe Parris takes a bit less to come here w/ Reich. We still have options. I'd say we've been spoiled these past 72 hours...still lots of time. I do think we are out on the more higher price guys like Chark, Hardman, etc. Agree w/ MHS that we've addressed everything EXCEPT our biggest glaring need after losing DJ.....seems a bit backwards.
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Trying to figure out what Nuk's contract would look like for us if traded, as well as comp going back. If AZ eats a big portion of what he's owed and the ask is a third rounder, then I'm game. That 2nd rounder needs to stay as a trade for Jeudy or for drafting a TE or WR. I think Hopkins has a good amount left in the tank. He's not a long-term answer, but could give us 2-3 more years of similar play.
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Panthers to host former Vikings WR Adam Thielen
Soul Rebel replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Always wondered why his visit was pre-announced yesterday. Felt like a leverage move against a contender and who is more WR needy than us right now? Best of luck wherever you end up Thielen. -
JuJu to the Pats for the same deal as Jakobi.
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Panthers to host former Vikings WR Adam Thielen
Soul Rebel replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Appreciate the info. Would've been a solid signing, but by no means hurts our offseason. His vet presence would've been a nice addition to an overhauled offense and rookie QB. -
Absolutely. I'm 100% onboard with being aggressive this year and being the ones "in control" of the draft at the top. I looked on Colts' message boards while researching Campbell and they were disappointed that they were leapfrogged by us. I'm assuming the sentiment is similar with the QB needy teams like Vegas and ATL. I'd much rather us be in the drivers seat and ensuring we get our guy this year vs. what's left over at 3 or 5.
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True. My point being is that if you wanted Levis, would it not have made more sense to move up to 3 and keep DJ? Moving up to 1 to "control the draft" just to move back seems counter-productive. I find it hard to believe that Carolina and Indy both have Levis as #1 on their board.
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Am I crazy to think that we are trading is an awful trade: DJ Moore '23 1st - #9 overall '23 2nd - #61 overall '24 1st '25 2nd for '23 1st - #4 overall '23 3rd - #79 overall '23 4th - #106 overall '24 1st '25 2nd We lose DJ Moore to move up 5 spots in '23 for the right to miss out on the #1 QB and take the #3 or #4 QB instead? The IND 3rd and 4th is worth less combined than our 2nd that went to Chicago. We swap 1st's in '24 and 2nd's in 25 with IND. We've downgraded in every aspect of this deal. Maybe I'm overlooking something....my maths could be off this early in the AM.
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Also a redhead wearing # 14..... Darnold PTSD will ensue.
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Panthers showing interest in RB Jamaal Williams
Soul Rebel replied to Saca312's topic in Carolina Panthers
I LOVE Williams' story and wouldn't be mad if he's our RB on a fair 2-3 yr deal. Foreman also has a pretty emotional backstory as well. I prefer Foreman, but hope we sign the cheaper/best value of Foreman, Williams, Sanders or Mattison. I think they will all produce similar numbers here with this OL, with Sanders & Mattison being younger. -
Why would a team with the roster construction of the Jets send two firsts for a 39-year old QB that is taking his sweet time milking the attention. Flip the script, send two firsts for Lamar and have a 26-year old former MVP for the next 5+ years. Lots of young talent and coaching there.