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Low risk with some potential for high reward. Win imo.

At a glance, this is the kind of move that should get someone fired. I'm gonna go back to ignoring the hornets as previously scheduled.

Thanks for this. Some of this I was forgetting and some I didn't know. I was pretty sure there was more than the watson stuff.

Could someone recap the drama that is being referred to with baker. I know he was unhappy after they started going after watson which is understandable imo. I'm sure there must be more but I don't recall it.

Article by Ellis Williams - https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article262270997.html I know there is a paywall on this but it is nice to see a bit of positivity somewhere. I don't see this posted but if it is, feel free to delete. There are actually some sources (Mike Tannenbaum amoung other unnamed front office sources) in here stating that they still believe in Rhule which I'm sure will get flamed here. Maybe I just want to believe it, but I too think our roster is pretty good if we had even average QB play.

The offensive system was so bad, he played worse the more of it he knew. </s>

He was downright bullying Joey slye last year. I really doubted he would be back.

Regardless of the facts of the case, what an incredibly stupid thing for a lawyer to say.

What did his lawyer say?

I imagine they want to resign burns and back load it some to free up space now. He is 16m or so against the cap next year. You can cut robby anderson and save 11m but still have 10m in dead cap. I hope he plays well this season and makes that not happen. Shaq has around 13m of his 24m cap hit that could be saved. However, he is needed imo. I was looking at the below to see our current numbers. Cutting cmc wouldn't free up much of anything. A trade would make more sense if anything. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/cap/2023/

Agreed on the Seattle game. When Luke scored on the pick 6 after the offense had just scored was about as loud as I can remember a game being. I know I was losing my mind. I'm definitely a bandwagon hockey fan...I watch the playoffs when the canes play but don't watch the regular season. Playoff hockey is intense and definitely fun to watch.

Winning does that. It was pretty electric during the last super bowl run. However there have been 4 straight miserable seasons for the panthers. I'll admit I've been to most of our games and its hard to be excited given the teams we have fielded. No doubt, the canes are exciting right now. I hope they have a good run in the playoffs.

I really like cmc but giving any rb a massive extension after 3 seasons is dumb. If we had used the 5th year option, we would be resigning or franchising him now and his contract would be very different.

I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere that Corral's leadership is a strength. Idk if that's true but I suspect being comfortable with the media and being a good leader for his teammates are definitely two distinct concepts.

Also, 80% of the time kick returners stick their arms out and watch the kick fly out of the end zone. The average game probably has 1-2 returned kickoffs. As long as Roberts is returning punts too though, he can contribute. We have been mediocre at special teams for so long, it would be great for that to change.

Agreed on that point.

True but I think the browns are gonna be more and more desperate as time goes on. They probably can't have baker in their locker room any more without distraction or problems and don't seem to have many trade options. They owe him the full salary if they cut him and then he could go to Pittsburgh or somewhere else that cleveland wouldn't like. (It would be nice for a trade partner to be the desperate ones rather than us)

I'll take baker for darnold straight up all day. I might keep a little of darnolds salary to make that happen. Baker is simply better than Sam and would give us the ability to take Corral slow. Baker is gonna be mad and playing for his career and presumably healthy. If baker lights the world on fire and we are left with two good options, that is a much better problem than what we've had previously. If not, we would be out nothing.

I really don't think we are "a mess". With average or better qb play, I think we could be around .500 and maybe a wild card. The problem is, in a worst case scenario, our qb situation is the same as 2010 with a weak incumbent and a mid rd rookie who may not be ready or may never be ready (see Jimmy claussen). If we have poor qb play, we may well be picking top 5 in 23. However, if Corral is the real deal, he could be a major cap bargain for 4 years. That can lead to an immediate window like Seattle had with wilson. I believe corrals total contract is not much more than 5 or 6 million over 4 years. It's easy to build a talented roster when the qb position is that cheap. Obviously darnold will be off the books for 3 of those years.

It's funny they took him at least in some part as a great returner and he turned into our best wide receiver in our history.

Cade mays it is on nfln on my tv.

I heard him say that. Wonder if it would Pickett over Neal/cross or only if all 3 of those tackles were gone. That would have been unfortunate.

Happy Thoughts. We could have taken Pickett at 6 and have no tackle. I like how this worked out. Instead we got a stud ot AND a qb to give us hope.

I don't mind some cockiness in my qb. You need to think you can do anything.