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If Carr after he's cut is willing to take a one year prove it deal then i'm open to signing him if he will take $20-25 mill. He can be a bridge QB to our newly drafted rookie 1st rounder, and significantly raise the level of play in the QB room. This will also provide us insurance should we not land a rookie QB in April. Let the potential rookie, Carr and Corral all fight it out, competition is good. One of these 3 potential options has to hit lol. I most certainly am not trading anything for Carr unless he's willing to redo his contract, and even then it would be nothing of value (like a 6th max).

The Bears are not getting a first rounder for Fields, every team would wait them out knowing they won’t keep both QBs in that scenario . Fields would probably go for a second rounder as the second the Bears draft his successor he is devalued and they have lost major leverage.

Someone mentioned this on twitter, but Mrs. Tepper saw her husband get bamboozled by Rhule because he was a slob and she's like I got this one. So far the interview requests have been spot on. I'm sure Fitt is going to make his recommendation on the football side, but she probably has a good judge of character. I'm willing to give her a shot.

The Colts already have stated they will do whatever it takes to move up and secure their guy. I suspect the Panthers will be aggressive also as they should. The haul the Bears are gonna receive is going to be too rich for them to pass on. Whoever misses on 1 will probably move on to Arizona's pick at 4 for the 3rd QB as the Texans will take whoever's left at 2 (Levis or Stroud). I think by the time the combine concludes Levis and Young will be the conversation at 1. The Panthers should be able to secure one of the top 3 guys with the amount of ammo we acquired from the CMC trade.

Again the problem is that if you run a successful offense in the NFL, your OC is going to get poached for a HC job. Because the league is skewed towards offense and scoring points. Teams know that, look who the Panthers are bringing in. So if the Panthers hire Wilks, and he brings in a stud OC to run his system, that guy is probably gone within 2 years. Your gonna trust that he can find another guy that quick, and we can keep some continuity for our perceived young QB were about to draft? It's too tough, which is why you need an offensive minded HC. If the OC gets poached things continue, nothing changes, the coach either calls plays or he hires someone to run his offense. Thats the way of the NFL today, high octane offense and blue collar defense.

The only defensive coach we are interviewing is Wilks. Tepper thankfully understands you’re at a disadvantage by not having an offensive minded HC.

Icky will start at LT if he’s ready, if he’s not Brady will. Rhule needs to win to keep his job, and if the rookie isn’t ready to keep Baker clean then they need to go with the bpa. There is a learning curve to playing in the NFL, Evan Neal (playing RT) is getting beat like a drum in Giants camp. It’s still early, let’s see how Icky looks by preseason game 3..

I would rather the Eagles deal so that we can try and get Penning and Pickett. That would be a HR of a first round.

How does getting Baker continue to dig that hole? He’s only going to be signed for this year and is going to cost next to nothing in draft compensation. If he sucks he’s gone at the end of the year and we will be in a position to draft a QB again, and if he’s good we’ll then we can pay him accordingly or franchise him. The guy actually has talent, something Darnold wishes he had. I’m very in on giving Baker a chance, the odds of him hitting are better then any of this drafts QBs imho. Take the OT at 6… Worst case we get Jimmy G who is a more than competent stop gap for a year or two, could be our Alex Smith till we find our long term answer. Jimmy G can probably take this team to the playoffs in a weak NFC.

The point is you likely won't have to trade any assets for either of them as both the 49ers and Browns have no leverage in trade talks. The NFC is wide open compared to the AFC. Jimmy G could easily lead this Panthers team to the playoffs...

I think both Jimmy and Baker are talented players. Are they upper echelon Mahomes level, obviously not. But you can certainly win with them as both those teams have proved with recent playoff runs. Jimmy made some really big time throws in the final drives of a few games last year, that dude is ice. He does have limitations though. Baker has arm talent that can’t be questioned. The argument is always Jimmy sucks and Shanahans offense carries him, yet there record when he’s hurt compared to when he plays is staggering. So why couldn’t Kyle get even mediocre results with other “backup level” QBs. That’s because Jimmy G is a starting QB in this league (he probably ranks between 15-20), Sam Darnold is barely a backup level player..he’s a third string QB

Just to quickly get this out of the way because I haven’t seen it posted here yet, but there’s a reason nobodies traded for these two guys yet. It it doesn’t have anything to do with playing ability so much as it does leverage. (and maybe Bakers attitude, maybe) The Browns are paying Baker about 18.5mill for this season. Same as we are stuck paying Darnold. If the Browns cut Baker, they still owe him the 18.5mill. The only way he’s completely off the books is if he’s traded. Every team whose interested knows this, and the Browns have no leverage because he needs to go and they want/kinda need the cap space. The reports of teams asking the Browns for a draft pick to take Mayfield are likely very accurate and will likely happen. They are gonna have to Osweiler him.. With Jimmy it’s different. The Niners are up against the cap, I believe they have 3mill left. If they cut Jimmy they save 25mill and take like a 2 mill hit. Same if they trade him. But everyone and their mother knows the Niners need the cap space and are eventually going to have to cut him. It’s literally inevitable. Nobody is trading anything for a guy coming off shoulder surgery with 1 year left on his deal. So if the Panthers want Jimmy and I suspect they do, they are playing it perfectly. Be patient, Niners will eventually cut him, free the cap room and you can sign him as a one year stop gap for likely a lot less than $25mill he would have gotten via a trade. It looks like it’s down to Jimmy G or Cam starting for the Panthers next year, for better or for worse. Doesn’t mean they won’t draft a QB at 6, but unless they wow in camp they likely will red shirt. Pickett obv has a better shot to start then Willis.

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Cam in a Taysom Hill roll, coming in on short yardage and redzone opportunities is still deadly. Expecting Cam to start and play an every down roll is just asinine at this point. As long as he understands his roll as the backup and short yardage back on the offense, and the money works there is no downside to this whatsoever. Cam would be an excellent mentor to any young QB, and he just elevates the team and the teams chemistry. If they expect him to start all year and act as a bridge QB kiss this season goodbye because he's not that guy anymore.

This kid isn’t some scrub from all accounts, Rappport reported that a few teams have checked in on him with the Giants, and Joe Judge gave him very high praise saying he deserves to be one of the 32 kickers in the game. Judge wouldn’t go out on a limb like that for some scrub..I live in NJ I see plenty of Giants chatter..Give the kid a chance you may be surprised and shocked at how cheap we got him.

We’ll if you know how the NFL works everyone was aware the Giants wouldn’t roster two kickers, so most interested teams were waiting for him to be cut. The rest hold draft picks like gold..be happy we have aggressive GM who sought to acquire him for a conditional 7th. Kickers don’t exactly get traded for high picks, a 7th is par for the course.

This kid is actually good. Has a strong leg..I watched the Giants game specifically to see him last week and I was impressed. Great trade by Fitterer. We weren’t the only team in on him he was coveted..

Darnold revenge game to start the year, should be interesting

Both Horn and Surtain are legit day 1 starters at CB, i wouldn't be upset about the pick whatsoever. If it comes down to Horn or Slater i'm taking Horn.

Will the Panthers actually take Justin Fields if he's there is the question..Schefter now saying there is a 95% chance he's available at pick 7, which means unless Detroit trades out (which isn't high odds according to Peter King) the chances of him being available for the Panthers are extremely high. I hope they do!

Looks like based on the current rumors (with Pitts looking destined for Atlanta, Chase to Cinci and Smith/Waddle to Miami) that the Panthers at 8 should have a high probability of drafting either Fields or Sewell. If the Patriots do trade up in front of us at 7 with Detroit for Fields, we will literally have one of the best LT prospects in a long time staring us in the face. Cant wait for thursday.

There are 3 guys outside of the QBs who are potential franchise changing players (and 2 who are right on the fringe), these guys have an opportunity to be generational type guys. Penei Sewell, Patrick Surtain, and Kyle Pitts ( Chase and Horn could be as well ) If the QBs are off the board as expected securing one of those 3 who all happen to be in a position of need would be amazing. Trading back and missing any of those guys would be a major mistake. As bad as i want a QB, if Sewell is the pick i'm doing backflips on draft night. If Slater is the guy you covet, trade back.

The Texans were hot garbage this year, also had a horrible HC, had suspect WRs, terrible OL, everything you just mentioned. Did that make Watson look like garbage? No because he’s actually good. Darnold has not shown even a glimmer that he’s getting better or grasps being a consistent NFL starter. In fact based on all the metrics he’s gotten worse. Joe Flacco looked better in the offense than he did last year, let that sink in. Every QB can make throws here and again, Darnold can look good every once in a while, but he’s just not consistent enough to be an NFL starter. This isn’t the same as Tannehill who has running ability when the passing isn’t there. if you wanna stay in mediocrity than Darnold is the guy for you, it’s disheartening because the Panthers actually have a good team surrounding the QB..

Sorry that I’m just more knowledgeable about the sport than you. I guess everyone who you don’t agree with is an alt account, good way to show you have anything of substance to add. Instead of telling me why Darnold will actually succeed here when he’s been trash, you do the equivalent of telling mommy someone’s picking on you on the internet. LOL and alt account, who has time for that!

Lmfao you really just commented on someone’s rep on a message board. I’ve seen it all..I don’t post often, I have something called a life. All the rep in the world won’t make Darnold a good QB. I live in NJ, I watch the Jets often, I’ve seen Darnold in person often. I don’t know what else you need to hear, he’s garbage. You have probably seen like one Jets game your entire life.