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This will come down to which defense can impose their will on the other and who has the best field goal kicker. Neither offenses dazzle.
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What that Darnold is the answer? So far he isnt and that is obvious. But the question is whether he will still be here next year. Based on contracts it would be yes but then again we dumped Bridgewater and ate a big chunk so we will move on quickly if we dont believe in you so there is that. I want to see what Cam can do and if you dont believe in Santa Claus then how did we land Cam? Of course there is a Santa Claus and in the spirit of the season everyone declared good will to men and came together for this Panthers Christmas and all is right in Pantherland. The end..or just the beginning......
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What he said was that Cam was more of a leader in his first year than Brady was toward the end. More of an indictment of Brady and why they split after so long. Brady went from a great leader at the beginning to an ass toward the end from what I have read. I imagine they liked Cam's let be serious but have fun attitude over Brady's tirades and feeling his team didnt deserve him.
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Well I guess if you said it, then it must be true. Ok bye.
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Exactly. One big question will be his fit in the offense. This is his third offense in as many years. Each different schemes. I know Josh McDaniels changed things around for Cam and Brady said he will find what his QBs are best but this is largely a West Coast scheme. New England runs an Erhart Perkins and Rivera ran a Coryell system. Throwing to spots and being very accurate have never been Cams strengths which is what this offense requires. Hopefully we can make it Cam friendly yet productive.
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Of course they are linked in several ways. First of all we need to find a starting QB. So far we have none. If Cam struggles dont assume we couldnt see Darnold again. Thats right. The only one under contract for next year right now is Darnold and his 18 million dollars of guaranteed money. Second Cam is a vet who can help Darnold grow and could be one of the reasons he was brought here. Both PJ and Darnold could use some mentoring. Lastly Darnold was great and then lousy. So he had enough flashes to bring him to camp since he is going to get paid. So yeah I am totally serious and if you think about it for a minute you would see the validity of the argument. You may think the discussion is about dumping Darnold or trading but I dont think that Rhule or Fitterer are there at all. Even if Cam is awesome then they have their backup and the guy potentially down the road. Rhule said he was treating Darnold like a rookie which suggests he had a plan for him beyond dumping him if he struggles.
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First Take - Cam is a Box Office Move
panthers55 replied to CPcavedweller's topic in Carolina Panthers
Resale tickets for sure. Many seats are going for double face value. But it wasnt simply to sell tickets but rather give fans a reason to still want to come to the games. When you lose more at home than you win several years in a row it wears on your fanbase and that included the last several years Cam was here. But it was the best all around move and that includes the best football decision. Tepper has nothing to lose but money and he has plenty to burn. It was a win win. -
I think the hammy will be an issue since apparently it is very tight. He uses a roller to stretch it out between series. But he is tough and as long as it doesn't tear he will give it his all. CMC at 75% is still pretty great.
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I can see us on that list because we have a great defense, good special teams with a sure field goal kicker. On offense we have Christian, DJ, Robbie and several other players that are skilled. I have said this all season long. We dont need Superman anymore, we need a competent QB who can get the ball to our play makers while making good decisions and retaining the ball. Cam just has to make some plays and distribute the ball. He has more weapons than he has ever had. He doesnt have to carry the team on his back. As long as he does his job and let his team do theirs we could be a tough out the rest of the way.
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Darnolds contract isnt terrible if he has some utility. We have paid guys 10s of millions after they were cut or injured. Sam was good and then very bad but I dont think the staff is so down on him like fans are. I would expect him to come in and compete for the starting job next offseason. Sitting the bench which he has never done might be good for him. Plus having a vet like Cam could help him as well. And lets be real, Cam is on an 8 game tryout. There is no guarantee he will be great either. Lets wait until the offseason to decide what we are going to do.
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Sure glad we have a capologist who understands how things work. Giving up draft picks to trade him makes little sense. We will likely keep him and see what happens next year. Right now Cam isnt signed beyond this year. People are getting way ahead of themselves.
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First Take - Cam is a Box Office Move
panthers55 replied to CPcavedweller's topic in Carolina Panthers
Seat revenue might be similar but merchandising, food revenues etc were going to take a huge hit and the stands would be empty of Panther fans. This was a win for Tepper whether we win or not. No one knows if Cam still has it or not but now he will get a chance. But for Tepper it is a no lose situation to bring him in. -
And that is totally what it was. A business decision to fill seats and energize the fan base. And if it works the Panthers look great. If it doesn't they have still have done what they can to make things better.
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And we can beat that up from now to forever. Won't change anything.
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I am not convinced there was much to eat crow about. In 2019 Cam had been injured for years and there was no reason to think he had much left. So we moved on. Cam showed folks he isnt done and played decently for NE. He only became the solution here when Darnold got hurt. Otherwise we wouldnt have looked that direction. Both Rhule and Fitterer have said they will do anything they can to make the team better. At this point he was the best option out there so the Panthers inquired and he was available. So they signed him. It wasnt hard to do and was really a no brainer. If he does well then everyone is happy and Rhule and Fitterer look great. If he sucks then they are no worse off but all the people bitching about how Cam left are now mollified that he got his chance. So really it didn't take much at all for Rhule to bring him in. The bigger issue will be what to do with Cam if he doesnt play great but doesnt suck. If we move on are folks going to be butt hurt again or will they be okay moving on. I personally hope he plays great and we dont have to keep shopping for a QB. But I dont agree it was hard to bring him in at all. In fact he killed several birds with one stone..
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For his part I thought PJ played well. As much as we kicked Arizona's butt people forget they were 8-1 and their defense was only giving up right at 18 points a game. Does PJ need to.protect the ball better? Of course but this was his second start. I wouldnt be surprised if they dont platoon PJ and Cam to save a little Cam like we do with CMC. While Cam isnt a RB he surely takes a bunch of hits. I could see using them both based on who has the hot hand. That might be a way to extend Cam even if it is only 8 games.
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Interested to see how he plays if he starts. Washington has a legitimate defense and Rivera knows Cam's strengths and weaknesses. But Cam should be well rested and fresh. Should be a good game. Let Cam start and see what he can do. We need to see how everyone plays and we have lots of decisions at the end of the year. Personally I hope Cam has a great day and shows he is back.
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He did a good job and make the choice at QB more difficult next week.
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Fitterer says " We'll have to do something with Sam. "
panthers55 replied to Zod's topic in Carolina Panthers
Already covered this ground repeatedly. Try to keep up. No one is comparing them as quarterbacks simply saying there is no reason to decide anything right now. Cam hasnt played a down for us yet this time around. Lets see how he does and then decide where to go. -
Fitterer says " We'll have to do something with Sam. "
panthers55 replied to Zod's topic in Carolina Panthers
Again you are getting way ahead of things because of your love for Cam. As a Panther fan we all hope Cam does great and our QB woes are gone. But that is far from given and right now Darnold is already getting paid. He has not really gotten a chance to sit and learn from a veteran pro. He is our back up or starter depending on how Cam and PJ do the next 4 weeks. There is plenty of time to evaluate everything after this season is over. -
The Dolphins defense looks like a Ravens defense only faster. They are putting 7 rushers on the line confusing Jackson and filling all the run gaps smothering the Ravens rushing attack. They look like us. Going to be a tough matchup.
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This is surely an interesting season. First the thrill of victory and then the agony of defeat and then Superman to the rescue. I wonder what else happens. Cam has energized the fanbase for sure and lets be real, what did we have to lose. As a Panther fan you have to hope he still has some magic left. I wonder if they will put in a small package for Cam like redzone running and passing given PJs redzone problems this Sunday.
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The last few seasons have reminded me of a horror movie- Nightmare on Mint Street.
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Rhule's Press Conference Irked Me
panthers55 replied to Little Goody Two Shoes's topic in Carolina Panthers
I know folks dont want to hear this but Tepper brought in Cam to fill seats. The price of tickets for the Washington game doubled right after the announcement. This was a no brainer. If Cam wins some games then the excitement is back and maybe we have a winning season. If he sucks we stiill fill seats as folks will want to see Cam not knowing if this is a long term deal or short term rental.