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I bet if Rhule is fired and Snow goes with him Wilks will be the new DC. Snow even said that he and Wilkes think alike. I think Wilkes was chosen so he can be our next DC if Snow leaves or retires. Snow isn't exactly a spring chicken.

Why would we make Snow interim when he has never been a head coach and we have 2 assistants with head coaching experience? And Tepper said Rhule's job is safe so all this speculation about him being fired is wishful thinking.

Let's see if he can run the whole offense day 1 or whether it has to be severely restricted to what he can run due to being a rookie. Whether you like it or not, Sam or PJ running our complete offense is an upgrade over Corral if he can only run a chopped down version of the offense.

I am pretty sure most here would agree that the new coaches hired are significant upgrades over who was here previously and it isn't a debate. Anyone who knows anything about football can see the obvious upgrades. We went from guys with little to no NFL experience to guys who were coordinators before and in the case of McAdoo and Wilkes both were also head coaches. Campen is a proven commodity as a line coach and Tabor is considered one of the best special teams coordinator in the league. Even if we hadn't upgraded our personnel we would have been better this year based on coaching alone.

I think we need to see how everyone develops through camp and the preseason to get aby idea about where Corral will be. You don't put him in if he isn't ready unless you are willing to condense the offense to what he knows and can already do. If he can't run the full offense then Sam and PJ are your best chances to win. When Corral is ready and he is the best option then he should start. And the guys who will know that best will be McAdoo and Ryan. The whole theory that Rhule needs to manipulate things to save his job is a false narrative already debunked by our draft and failure to go all out for Watson for example by guaranteeing his contract. In the past the offensive coordinator was a Rhule yes man, McAdoo is going to coach as best he can and do what he knows to do. I bet Tepper has told Rhule to let his folks do their job and that they don't appreciate being micro-managed anymore than he would.

Teddy couldn't throw the ball deep without heaving it up there on a bet. The knock on Teddy was he refused to throw it down the field. Darnold actually has a fairly good deep ball which he rarely gets to show because he has never had time generally to wait for receivers to get deep. It is fine not to.like someone but you have to be within the real of possibility to get any credibility.

I think that if a quarterback had gone off in the top 10 it could have started a run on QBs. Everyone thought Pittsburgh and Pickett were automatics so that didn't move the needle. Like others we just waited for the next one to drop before we got busy. I don't think we were alone. As it got deeper in the draft suddenly QB was the BPA. But I think the lack of success last year's quarterbacks had might have deterred teams who wanted a guy who could play right away this year from jumping on a rookie. If this class is much worse and last year's mostly sucked then all these guys were developmental outside of perhaps Pickett.

I thought this draft was outstanding wholly admitting I am an optimistic fan and am looking at half full not half empty. But what has me excited is our new group of coaches. McAdoo and Campen are huge upgrades. And Wilks will help Snow with gameplanning and adjustments. Add in Tabor on special teams and we have real NFL experience in all phases of the game. People are so focused on Rhule that they don't realize things have shifted dramatically for the better. Our coordinators will be doing the work and making most of the day to day and development decisons. Rhule may have final say but he won't have yes men anymore but rather competent coaches who are respected in the league and have been there and done that. Tepper can let him coach and do his thing as long as he lets his folks do their job. They know more than he does. Hopefully he is smart enough to know that.

If you get 2 qbs who can play and are both on a rookie contract you hit the jackpot. When it is time for resigning you keep the best and trade the other if you can't sign both. Why shoot for a backup if you find a potential starter on a rookie deal.

I had read that the Eagles were hot for Thibideaux and were considering trading for our 6th. So the Giants did get what they wanted and we made the right choice because we had no trade down partner. I would call that a win - win.

Regardless of what talking heads and the media say, this could be one of our best drafts in the last decade. Ickey isn't going to bust and Corral is on a 4 year rookie deal and cost the equivalent or a mid third rounder for who some say is the best rookie qb in the draft. Given the value placed on LT and QB alone this draft was a great value at positions of need. Everyone else is a bonus. This year was quality over quantity. For what we needed I think we checked the boxes.

That doesn't reflect the draft so much as reflect that at most positions we have starters penciled in. I hope that Corral doesn't have to start day 1. Better for his development.

It isn't who is the better talent so much as who fits the system you are running. McAdoo liked Corral better. GMs find players who fit what the coaches want.

Fitterer said it all along. There were 2 folks he liked and it was seeing what it would cost to get that person. Willis went before he could make a deal that would have kept our next year 1st or 2nd. He said he kept from making a deal because he was relying on his board of what other teams were going to do and hoping that no one was going to pick Corral until he could use his 3rd instead of his 1st or 2nd. When New England agreed we made the deal I suspect worrying about who might snatch him from us.

Agree that this draft so far is a dream scenario. No one knows if Corral is the answer but the key is not jeopardizing the team's future if you are wrong. Of course we hope he is awesome and our future but the real smart think is getting great value at a very reasonable cost. There is no reason we can't swing for the fences again next year if we suck this year. Then we could have our starter and backup both on rookie contracts. But like usual I am letting my natural optimism start to run. I really think that barring strings of injuries we will be a contender and a tough out this year. So it might take some real draft juice to move up next year if those guys are really as good as the hype. Wouldn't want to get into the whole 3 1sts to move us a half dozen spots. Not when we got Corral for essentially a high third when you factor in our low 4th and our third next year which isn't worth as much as a third in this draft because it is a future pick.

Have to agree. We picked up two missing pieces and got potentially the best LT and QB in the draft. Added to our coaching upgrades and free acquisitions we may have begun to turn the corner.

Depends on injuries but he needs to learn a lot and needs to get stronger before he will avoid getting hurt himself. Look at the qbs who were supposedly better last year and how they did. Corral won't be ready this year and we need to get our 18 million out of Darnold who will be improved.

Apparently we tried to get back in the draft sometime in the second but thought the price was too high. As the QBs fell we kept monitoring it and looking for trade partners. Finally the cost was reasonable so we found our partner and made the pick. Instead of panic buying it was just the opposite. We kept monitoring and trying to balance cost of moving up versus not jeopardizing next year by giving up a 1 or 2. Fitterer had few picks but obviously maximized his haul. Anyone who thinks we did anything besides a great job doesn't have a clue about drafting.

Give corral a few years to develop his NFL body and he might be able to handle the abuse of running an RPO. Right now he would get snapped like a twig.

Really looking forward to seeing our offense this year. Injuries really have derailed us the past 2 years along with suspect coaching. It seems clear we will be much better coached on offense and special teams. And that does make a huge difference. I am hoping the injury gods are favorable to us this year. If so we should be a hard out this year. It has been so long since we had a good line and competent OC I think most on here have forgotten the difference it has made.

This is a great value pick. Many pundits saw Corral as the best QB in the draft. And we got him for a third rounder next year and our low 4th this year. And he is on a rookie contract for peanuts for 4 years. This draft has exceeded all expectations so far.

At this point in the draft he is great value. Some pundits had him as the best QB in the draft and here we are in the third stealing him. And he is on a rookie deal for 4 years. Hopefully as a redshirt he can start right away practicing and learning the offense if he is finished with classes.

I hope that Corral gets his NFL body so he can take the abuse in the NFL. He is very athletic and moves well. He says his understanding of Xs and Os and protections are his strength. That would be nice for a change.

We clearly like his dual threat capacity. Maybe we envision him as our Lamar Jackson light.. Very athletic

Actually if you have pre and post snap reads and you are going through progressions you don't stop thinking after the snap and it isn't just react. So you are right that when he is pressured his ability to think may be compromised but the solution is build in plays, automatic reads and rehearsal while under pressure so he can read and react. And no you don't have it or not and managing a trauma response is very coachable just like managing anger or other emotions. One issue is that if you practice all the time and the qB is protected does he ever practice under pressure before the actual game? The answer is actually not much. Hence the need for more innovation like virtual reality.