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If we start winning we might be able to get hometown discounts and players wanting to play here which helps at contract time. If Baker has a good year he will find a landing spot here or elsewhere. There aren't 32 franchise qbs so there are always teams interested.

We all do. It has been tough especially going to games where we won only 2 home games last year. That is why I loved the preseason game even though it didn't count. It has been a long time since we have won anything to cheer about. But Baker is going to get us back to being a tough out if the defense holds up.

The cap can be manipulated a dozen different ways. But no you don't tag a player because then it is due right then. By doing a long term contract you can backload which is what most everyone does these days.

Slow on the uptake this morning I see.

Yep. As long as it isn't all guaranteed, the cap next year won't be that much as his signing bonus will be his salary for the most part and will be prorated over the life of the contract.

Actually lots of fans tired of losing are thinking differently this year. It is the we are afraid we will suck again crowd that are too traumatized to go out on a limb for the team and root wholeheartedly for fear they will be disappointed yet again.

It isn't just going to games it is embracing our franchise qb as he tries to right the ship and get us back to winning.

Suit yourself. We will save you a seat though.....

Some people come to the party early and others come late but eventually they all get there. The sooner you jump on though the longer the ride.

Jump right on the bandwagon. There is plenty of room. Baker is our franchise qb and will bring up back to respectibility.

I read he traveled with the team to Charlotte and is expected to play.

Totally disagree. If Baker helps us get back in the playoffs he will be fine riding with this squad. After QBs know the success of the team rides on their back and there is talent around him. Unless he thinks this is a poo show, he will be loyal to us given he knows what it is like to be cast aside and will value loyalty in return which spells a multi year contract at the market rate.

Baker doesn't have to have a probowl year to be worth retaining. How many pro bowls did Cam have? 3. Jake 1. But they were our franchise guys. Because each in their own way made other guys around them better. They were fiery guys who were emotional and hated losing. Baker has that already with the team. Guys like his attitude and swagger. They follow him already. I don't care about milestone stats focusing instead on how many 4th quarter drives did you engineer for points at the end of the game. Are you in command of the offense and a leader in the locker room? Are you best under pressure. Do you bounce back and play well from behind?? He will improve if he can finally stay in one system and have a stable OC. He is a quick study and now we see if he can deliver the goods.

I suspect that by midseason Ickey will be playing pretty well. Most rookie linemen get abused no matter how strong until their technique improves. If he doesn't give up too many sacks that it gets in his head, he will be fine. We need to give him some help with guys like Garrett to help him hold his own otherwise we could lose some games while we figure it out.

Allen only accounted for 7 points against their opponent in week 2 so they are still potent with their second stringers.

You aren't worth a thread. I loved me some Delhomme and I loved Cam and hoping Baker is the next one in line. If not him then Corral in a few. As a Panther fan I wish good things for all our boys. That is why you are a troll. I don't understand supposed Panther fans hoping our players or staff suck and fail. And no I don't need a lame explanation.

DJ will likely play in the first quarter to work on gamestyle chemistry with Baker. CMC won't play at all.

Because you troll, whine and bitch about everything and are a huge Debbie downer. If that is love I feel for all the people you love so much......

I am going to be there rooting Baker and company to score early and often against the Bills. I don't care who they play. After all without gameplanning this is not game conditions.

Yeah trying to keep you "sky is falling"folks from collapsing the website in a sea of whining and complaining.

Smith will make the 53 but right now I would start DJ and RA both experienced vets. I might put Shi in the slot if I had CMC in the backfield. Otherwise McCaffrey is our best receiver and Higgin is great in the redzone and on third down. My question is how many reps will be left. I don't see him replacing Robbie unless he has another down year and I don't think that happens with Baker.

Since you didn't catch the obvious reference to our situation being somewhat unique let's be clear. What is happening this year is unique to us and our situation alone so comparing Corral to other rookies on other teams or debating about whether this was fair or usual is irrelevant and a waste of time and words. We had plans to develop Corral and in fact picked him as insurance if we didn't get Baker. But when we got Baker so late as we did, plans changed and developing Baker became a priority. We also had to make sure Darnold was ready to play in the event it took Baker more time to learn the obvious complex playbook. The whole competition thing was overblown and coach talk. So the only complaint was why play PJ so much and my thoughts are that when they saw that Corral knew virtually nothing about a pro offense including taking snaps from center, having different drops, calling protections etc. they already planned to stash and develop him. They put him out in games for his own edification not in the likelihood that he would see the field this year. Redshirting will be the best thing for him. I do wish he could get snaps with the practice squad and by going on IR I don't think he can practice. But the notion you need to.invest tons of snaps in a third or 4th qb is crazy when you are teaching your complex brand new system to the starter and backup and you have weeks not months.

Both Darnold and Baker were starters last year until they got hurt.

Can you point to another team that had 2 starters fighting out for the starting position like we did learning a new system from a new OC. I'll wait.....

They did do what any team would do if they didn't know who they would start. Have a competition to see who is best. Most teams have established starters so the rookies and younger guys get more reps. In our case the reps needed to go to Darnold and Baker. There wasn't a plan to get Corral ready to start. If he had started it was already going to be a disaster. Comparing his performance to other rookies is irrelevant given they play in different offenses and each team has their priorities for what they want to accomplish from practice. But no there was no reason to give lots of reps to Corral who was always going to sit the bench this year.