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People look at Jones and forget he only started this past season. Why is his current performance indicative of his potential? Can a guy get more athletic with training? Can they get stronger or even faster. (Within reason of course). He may never be considered athletic but those who think what you see is all you get are way underselling his potential

If he had the same QB coaches the whole time that might apply but he has had several and the same issues are still there.

Given Lance has played 1 game in the last 400 days I suspect lots of folks want more of an up close look.

I hear about his hard working habits in the gym. But I have always wondered why it never translated to better fundamentals, better understanding of defenses and more accuracy. You would think if he worked at those as hard as he did the gym he would be further along after 10 years in the league. Not saying he isn't a hard worker but it seems not to translate equally among his skills.

And film is in the eyes of the beholder. Two guys see the exact same thing and come to completely different conclusions. Then what? You look for other things including stats to provide Context. Like watching Jones first few games as a starter in college this year and drawing many conclusions versus looking at how he progressed over the year and extrapolating his potential given he only started 1 year in college. Folks aren't calling him raw and unfinished like they do about guys with less than 20 starts in college.

He didn't get a few right. Tell me anyone who does this rating QBs who has been more on target than Simms. Secondly while Lance may go high, he is a second round talent. He is the biggest boom bust guy out there. He has played 1 game in the last 400 days. Wait and see when Simms is right again this year maybe you will wake up and start paying attention to the guys really in the know.

The problem with sound bytes like this is context. Are we talking 1 or 50? The film shows 1. Plus those first 8 games were his first 8 starts in college. What about comparing his first 4 games with his last 4 and evaluate his improvement. No this says little to nothing. I will go with Simms on this one who has a track record of correctly predicting who will be best in the NFL.

Which is why a guy like Simms who.played QB in the NFL and has been right on with his evaluations over several years should be heeded. He said Jones is underated and given he was a 1 year starter is well ahead of where you expect. Not only does he move well in the pocket but he looks off safeties, goes through his progressions and did things in college that many rookie in the NFL still havent mastered. Stats are just numbers but film is important and his is good from what I have read from folks who should know.

And folks who evaluate QBs like Simms and has done the job himself and has been right on for several.of the drafts says the film is good and he can make all the throws. As a 1 year starter his skills are much further along than you would expect. So you are wrong, his film is actually very good. What too many are looking at is one picture where he looks fat.

We should do both. Roll with Teddy and draft Mac Jones. Cut Teddy after this season and then get a vet or another draft pick for Teddy next year. Then we have our starter and backup and are ready to roll.

Exactly. He did everything asked of him and he only started 1 year in college due to the talent of Alabama. Imagine what he could have done in four years.

And everything I have heard said was very positive. I guess that was just coach speak

And folks who have played in the NFL as QBs and watch film say just the opposite. Hmmm who should we believe....

So I assume your position is that if you are winning then do it by any means necessary but if you are losing then the cap issues are just more problems and not justified?

So when New Orleans restructures contracts to fit under the cap they have a genius at work, but when the Panthers do it they are blooming idiots? Can't have it both ways. BTW do you think these contracts anticipated the drop in revenue from Covid 19 and are a 1 time correction or a harbinger of the future??

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/alabamas-mac-jones-quarterback-nfl-draft-june-jones.amp Once people watch film they are seeing what others have said. Jones won't go number 1 but after starting just 1 year in college his command of the position is far beyond what you would expect. His ceiling is higher than folks give him credit.

Well obviously Alabama had the best wide receiver in college. But it isn't like Ohio State was podunk U. Do you think that the only reason that Alabama won was because of Smith and Jones hitting over 70% of his passes was just luck? He threw 41TDs and 4 ints all year. He dominated the game

If not him then someone else will take him. Jones is a legit NFL quarterback candidate and in our system would be very good. He dismantled the Buckeyes and it wasn't as close as the score made it appear. Jones was great that game and his talent around him wasn't that much better than what Fields had. The hunt for the next Mahomes has really skewed QB evaluations.

I hear that New England is interested. Then again I guess Belicheck knows nothing about great QB play.

Gettleman had 1 good draft and wiffed on multiple first rounders. His madden style churn every year started us in the hole most seasons while we tried to get everyone to gel. His negotiations were awful. He screwed up the 2016 team dumping Norman and replacing him with rookies who struggled mightily. He totally screwed up the Kalil deal took a Superbowl team and dismantled it. He was awful and he barely kept his job in New York this past year

Jones won't make it to the end of round one

Jones is the most NFL ready QB in college. I think it is easier to get someone stronger and quicker than it is to make them smarter and more accurate

The same with Jones. They compare actually favorably and some folks think New Orleans may move up if they can't land Wilson. https://rolltidewire.usatoday.com/2021/03/07/2021-nfl-mock-draft-which-team-makes-a-bold-move-for-mac-jones/

https://rolltidewire.usatoday.com/2021/03/07/mac-jones-2021-nfl-draft-mobility-richard-sherman/amp/ With all the emphasis on mobile quarterbacks, Jones may be unfairly criticized when many QBs are very successful with limited mobility. Brees and Brady easily come to mind.

This is the Panthers were talking about not New England. Alot might be an extreme exaggeration. Teddy toothpick Bridgewater didn't run much which is why he had success when he did. It was not typical of his pass it short philosophy. I am sure Jones would be that successful if not more. Is he my first choice, no, but he won't be a bad choice if we pick him. If we pick early we can roll the dice again. If we draft late next year then we might have our guy .