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I am one of those if the price is right. As the number 1 pick in the draft he hasn't played poorly. He has had multiple systems and little stability over his career. I think with a competent OC and our weapons he could be good.

I for one am fine with Watson going elsewhere. I don't love he is going to be a divisional rival but with Brady back we aren't going to win the division with Watson this year anyway. I would rather have Mayfield if reasonable or get a rookie and keep building. Get rid of Rhule and shoot for 2023. I know I am in the minority but this is one time where losing out could be winning.

That is like asking if you would rather be punched in the face or kicked in the junk. The obvious answer is neither.

No different than the Saints. All that restructuring got them to even not the 40 million to add Watson. Yet if they get him they will miraculously find the money.

Dumb and dumber. Sounds like a great ownership group.

I don't think that Watson is worth the price. He hasn't played in a year, might still be suspended multiple games under the conduct code and will be playing behind a depleted team who gave up five first rounders including picks and players. If Watson gets hurt we are depleted and screwed. We could take quite a few swings at QB with all those first rounders we gave up. This year at 6 we can get our left tackle for the next decade or our pick of QBs and still keep our stars and future picks. If we go QB and he sucks, we can use that guy as our backup when we dump Darnold and we can get a top qb pick again in 2023. With Rookie contracts cheap, you really can keep going for your QB. And we still have our 2024 first rounder. I don't understand the mortgaging a team for one player no matter who. We don't want to end up being the case study for what not to do in sports management courses giving up the farm for a player who couldn't carry the team without a supporting cast.

I'm hoping Seattle bails us out and keeps us from ourselves by trading for Watson. https://clutchpoints.com/seahawks-rumors-deshaun-watson-to-seattle-speculation-heats-up-even-more/

The grade is indicative of how someone played not how well they could play with a competent offense. Some guys like Moton can play in any system where other guys need to be in a good system for their skill set. So let's see how the line plays this year under hopefully better coaches.

I think we could fix the line if we go left tackle at 6. I don't think we are that far away. Then again if we mortgage everything for Watson we will have a crappy line and defense this year.

No quarterback including Wilson will be worth what Denver gave up. The same with Watson who has a more negative past. But when we trade for him I will stay a fan like I have through worse.

Great weather, great national anthem sung by 74000 folks, and the team played their butts off. We just need more speed and a better attack. But offense is likely going to take some time. We wasted a lot of possessions with deep balls to nobody.

I think the whole social distancing thing isolated folks and made them less willing to compromise and see other points of view.

Just because you can be a dick doesn't mean you have to. Just sayin...

We had our chances but couldn't finish. Still we have lots of young guys who we can deliver and hopefully learn to win. If you want to win now pick another team. If you like soccer and am glad we have MLS soccer in Charlotte, then enjoy the team improvement and hope for as much success as the Panthers did their first 2 years.

Nah. He wants to coach in Dallas. He didn't want to rebuild after Brees left.

We say that every year. And when they sign Wilson to a 40 million a year contract this offseason, everyone will be amazed they were able to do that. If they implode it will because the weasel left not a cap issue.

Once again. The cap can be manipulated to sign who you want. We keep saying that NO is going to implode because of back loaded contracts and yet every year they sign whoever they want. Also when you sign a player to a multiyear contract the first year cap is usually the prorated part of the signing bonus and a few million in salary. So if you don't think Reddick is worth an average of 10 million a year with a cap hit of 7-8 milion in 2022 then that is a reason to part with him. But given he is our most dynamic rusher and can play in the field and is good against the run, using the cap as the reason not to resign him makes little sense in the modern NFL

Total myth that handsize matters just like the length of your arms prevents you from playing left tackle. The last QB with supposed small hands was Joe Burrow.

It took 12 years between our first and second appearance so it history holds true we will be in Superbowl LXII and hopefully we win.

A good draft and free agency period will get me excited for 2022. After all we are either much improved this year or Rhule is gone. But if we have good talent then we will be on an upswing either in 2022 or in 2023 when the new regime takes over.

Rhule is hiring competent folks. If he let's them do their job we could be much improved. Rhule as a rah-rah guy is fine and his game management while not good has improved over year 1. Truth is when you hire a guy with little NFL experience this is what happens. The bigger question is whether he will let folks do their job or whether this total control fixation he has will ultimately doom him. If the offense is better honestly we should be much improved.

We can sign him for the signing bonus and a couple of million in cash in 2022. The big money will occur in year 2 or three of the contract. And if we don't guarantee everything we will be fine. The Panthers have folks responsible for fitting everything into the cap. The bigger question is whether he played well enough to justify resigning him and that answer for me is a resounding yes. Then again I am a fan and not a cap specialist so honestly I don't have to worry about the money. And honestly, as NO has shown the league, the cap isn't the stopper that folks think it is. I love folks on here acting as if they are some kind of cap specialist when the truth is none of have a real clue what can be done contract wise.

I expect us to address the o line in free agency and in the draft. We have all the cap room we want. It just depends on who we resign to cap friendly deals and who we don't bring back. I have to believe we let Brady play left tackle so we are looking for a guard or two in the draft and the same in free agency with a few depth picks. Unless we can get a top tackle at 6, I would trade back if possible, get a second or third round pick and still get one of top QBs in the draft later in the first.. Use the acquired pick on an O linemen.

I remember where he intercepted the shovel pass from Brister for a pick six to spur our first franchise win over the jets. That was great to see in person. And was a harbinger of things to come in 1996. What a defense....

Most of this conversation is in hind sight. Sure given Horn got injured and missed most of the season, and Darnold was worse than we expected and our line was worse than expected it may have been a wasted pick but at the time he was drafted our secondary was abysmal and we were looking at a bunch of good opposing wide receivers. I still think it will end up being a good move.