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Yeah since salaries have so escalated and the average defensive back makes over 10 million with the best at 20 million it is hard to add free agents. So trading for guys on rookie contracts has become popular to control the money and hopefully fix the issues if he is being traded so early in his career.

First of all who wants to play for Jacksonville? Second he was the 9th pick in the 2020 draft. And you can't tell me you know he can't play. He was not horrific and should be much improved based on a much better scheme. Get with the now and stop rehashing history. You will stay less triggered and when what I say comes true you will look smart too.

I just did and have reasons to be optimistic. Henderson is projected as a possible starter depending on how much we match up Horn on a specific player or allow him to play a side. Wait and see how much better the secondary plays with Wilks as coach. It wasn't the players, it was the poor coaching plain and simple.

We have added players after cuts every year in training camp since we became a franchise. Most every team does this. I am sure we will as well this year. Not sure how that is a bad thing unless we grossly overpaid or got ripped off. The Darnold trade was a calculated risk as was trading next years third for Corral. Getting Henderson is going to pay off this year and Gilmore while a short term rental taught our secondary alot in his time here. Not sure those trades were a bad idea or borne out of desperation.

I love how everyone comments with no understanding where things are today. Everything is about bitching about last year or beyond. I know you have been traumatized by our quick starts and huge fades, but this is 2022. Let's see how things unfold before constantly bitching about the past. Unless you have figured out how bitching about yesterday impacts tomorrow. And no they aren't connected or inevitable. The huddle isn't therapy, if you are that traumatized then get help. Otherwise stop with the constant complaining. Public service announcement....

It depends on how they play in our system with the other guys we have on the line. I was pointing out that size wasn't the issue technique was. Are you debating that or saying they would suck anytime even as depth or something else???

Everyone points out are DEs are too light and not very good against the run. Which is partly true. We aren't lighter than most teams at DE but you can't sell out against the pass every down and play the run first. If our back end does well it allows the line and linebackers to focus on the run first rather than going all out on blitzing and if you don't get there the secondary is exposed for a big gain.

This idea that we are small up front doesn't add up. Brown is 6-5 and 320. Iannidis is 305, McCall is 335, Roy is 330. Hoskins is the lightest at 280. So from a weight point we are plenty big. The problem was technique which is why we have a new D line coach.

Given all the guys who were out due to injury and international play, it really let some other players get meaningful minutes. In his interview, Fuchs said in his speech to the players that this was there opportunity to show what they can do. Obviously several stepped up.

That was a great win. Fantastic effort and the most physical I have seen them be yet. Our new coach stresses fitness and hard effort over tactical execution. It was on display today. And the fans were awesome as usual. It is great to go to the game and walk out a winner more often than not.

I don't think anyone thought teams would trade for Jimmy straight up and take on that salary. The question is what kind of money will Jimmy work for?? What if he wants 15 or 20 million which is a deal these days. Do you pay it or keep what we got..

You aren't alone. It has been hard to walk out of the stadium every week after losing again at home the last several years.

Snows folks weren't good with adjustments and his fronts while better last year were still too predictable and easy to beat. I really think having better coaches and Wilks schemes will help us be much better this year on things like red zone defense and on third down. Hopefully Pascaloni can get the defense to play tough against the run and the pass.

Keep in mind that guys like Michael Strahan played pretty darn well at 243 lbs. It isn't his size but the technique he is using which is a 1 gap DE going all out for the QB. If he played more of read and react where he played the run first and then the pass he would be more solid. But that requires the back 7 to hold up and usually it didn't. We have brought in several guys to compete and have guys like Brown, Roy, Nixon, Hoskins, laonnidis and some rookies in the middle and Burns, Matos, Haynes, Herron on the edges along with rookies again. Then mix in guys like Luvu who are often blitzing and we have some decent players. We just need a good scheme and so far the reports from Snow about Pasqualoni seem very positive. Should get a little better look when minicamp starts.

Let's look at depth for example. With the addition of 3 potential new starters with NFL experience on the line along with Moton, most of the guys who started last year will be depth. So we will have a deep rotation with lots of guys with starting experience. If CMC goes down we have several good options with starting experience to come in. The secondary is the same way. Everywhere in free agency where we have brought in a potential starter is also a guy who gives us good depth if they get beaten out. About the only areas that are still unknown may be DLine and QB. And it is still early. How many guys do we bring in after training camp cuts.

Which totally works as long as the player stays on the roster. But if the player is released or traded then all the remaining unaccounted for signing bonus accelerates to the current year. Which of course you can manipulate somewhat using the post Jun 1 release designation to spread the cap over 2 years.

Obviously by refusing the demands to guarantee the last 2 years we chose to move on. That is called passing on a player. I know it conflicts with your premise that Watson didn't choose us but everything I read said if we would have guaranteed the last 2 years he was coming here. It was the money. Remember Watson wouldn't waive his no trade clause for Cleveland initially, but when we passed, suddenly Cleveland was an option again. And if you think that Tepper would have passed on him over money you are in the minority. Tepper paid Rhule a ton and didn't bat an eye. I imagine that it would have taken Fitterer and Suleiman both to talk him out of Watson given our salaries currently.

Hard to know what Snow will run. Here is an article talking all the multiple fronts and looks in 2021. https://matchquarters.substack.com/p/the-multiplicity-of-the-panthers?s=r

I am pretty optimistic that we are on the way up. While I am not a Rhule fan, if he sticks to coordination, overall vision, motivation and game day decisions related to timeouts, challenges etc. he can be actually decent. This is the first time that the offense, defense and special teams have coaches who are well respected and very knowledgeable about football. They arent yes men. Our line coaches are good and Wilks is going to help Snow learn the NFL game. Snow is smart and has a lot of experience in college. He tried to bring that to the team with funky formations that filled teams for a while but then were predictable like that prevent defense 3 man rush. Wilks is actually pretty good at adjustments and game planning. His failed head coach experience taught him a ton. Snow may run the defense but Wilks will control the backend which has been the reason we sellout on the rush because our secondary couldn't hold up. And special teams is immensely improved. We have the best punter who is reiterated by the challenge and a coach considered one of the best in the league. Imagine running them back for scores while not giving up a bunch in return. When was the last time we ran a kickoff back for a score? I had to look it up. Trenton Cannon in 2020. TLDR: I am thinking NFL coaching will actually be seen this year under Rhule. He has plenty of experienced head coaches on his staff to help him out. He better listen and stop micromanaging.

I suspect that this year is really Fitterers first one where he has the power. Given his role is getting players Rhule wants, with limited draft picks, he gets an A+ for getting Ickey and then getting Corral. As QBs started to get picked up he waited until it only cost him a third. Honestly Tepper needs to give his brass balls award to Fitterer. You know after passing up.on Watson we were under a lot of pressure to draft someone. He would be a tough poker player. And yes, luck was a lady that night for us. And in free agency he got some good players on decent deals. I am not a fan of the Jackson resigning but apparently there are coaches who love Jackson and his job was to get him signed.

One thing not said here is that all owners have access to an NFL guaranteed loan of up to 500 million which they have to use for football purposes. It isn't based on need or ability to.pay it back, it is just there. So honestly as long as folks could repay it back they have millions to throw at the salary cap any time they want to.

I think Fitterer has the major sway with Tepper and was the reason we passed on Watson. If it had been up to Tepper he would have paid anything to get him. Of course that is speculation on my part.

Cap hell is what they say to justify not spending money and honestly it isn't that hard to figure out. I never thought Richardson really wanted to build a winner. And at least Tepper has finally brought in a true capologist and a good GM. It will be interesting to see if Fitterer is allowed to loosen the pursestrings and spend the money.

Actually I don't think Richardson had or wanted to spend the money. Tepper seems willing to spend it and has billions more than Richardson. Of course we have struggled mightily with picking the right guys and paying them appropriately.

The Saints have done it a decade or more. This is exactly why I keep saying the cap can be manipulated so you can sign who you want. Stop posting we have cap issues and that we have to choose between this guy and that. We can sign anyone we want. Now an ex-GM confirms it.