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Corral did play with scrubs but got rattled by scrubs as well. How he compared to Howell is irrelevant. It was good for him to get his first taste of live action. There is no pressure on him to do anything. And his 3rd round trade up will be what saves him otherwise PJ is much better at this point. But that doesn't matter he will get more work next week where he might get a full half. And he will make the roster. But the folks touting him as the best guy we have now see the foolishness of their proclamations. He may be one day but not this year.

Vanilla or not there were some takeaways for me. Thought we mixed up plays pretty well. We didn't look totally predictable. I thought getting in and out of the huddle was generally good. The scheme allows QBs to audible and move folks around. We had some good misdirection plays that had guys wide open. Everyone QB moved the ball which suggests good scheme success versus individual QB talent.

Gonzales is doing great and our punt and kickoff coverage looks good. How many times did the returner make it back to the 25?

You aren't paying attention. You don't gameplan in the first preseason game so you go vanilla. We seem to be better against the run although Roy was getting moved on double teams. Playing more read and react because our secondary is going to be good. Frankly I like it better than the sellout at all costs to get pressure.

I know it is the first preseason game but it looks to me that tacking is good and guys are in their lanes and moving toward the ball.

I attend home games and some away ones as well. I don't get drunk and don't get in fights. Sure some idiots do and others have a big mouth. But if you are respectful to others they usually are in return. There are exceptions but most times some other jerk will take them on leaving me in the clear.

I know it will be vanilla and no gameplanning but we will see our basic schemes on offense and defense. I am interested to see what McAdoo does this year. He has been a west coast guy but Rhule likes to.pound the rock. And on defense how does the secondary hold up and how good are our linebackers really. Gameplanning or not, talent is clear and being around the ball is instinctive.

It wasn't fan fiction but I said rumor because saying I heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who talked to him about it sounds like REO speedwagon. But remember he signed his huge contract in April of 2020 three months after Rhule was hired. So he had no knowledge of how it was going to go. He has always been a workhorse but it isn't just how much he plays but the offensive line blocking and scheme determining how much of a beating he takes or how much time he gets between carries. Injuries are tough for everyone but who would want to run behind the line and offense we put out on the field the last 2 years.

Last I heard he said he was 100% and ready to go.

I had read a rumor that CMC was unhappy about how he was being used and blamed that for his injuries. Don't know if it is true but the dialing back of his workouts and hopefully smarter use of him in the slot with lots of dumpoffs where he doesn't have to run up the middle will preserve him this year.

Actually if you pay attention it is easy to see what is happening and hence why I said they would both play well before it was announced. And if you agree that there has been a shift in power and we have football people making the decisions now you can see why this year won't resemble last year. Thank goodness. Rhule may be the head coach but it is plain to see that he is staying in his lane for the most part and letting the experienced guys do their thing. It is actually smart for him to do that given if he defers to them he at least has someone to blame if it goes south. Truth is that when you have total control and micromanage you better be right and he clearly hasn't been.

Then why not just say I was wrong. You don't have to justify or make excuses. And I wouldn't be taking you to task if you hadn't gone back and forth for days arguing when it was obvious they both were going to play and that last year has nothing to do with this year. The decision is likely not his either but McAdoos.

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/10/panthers-baker-mayfield-sam-darnold-commanders-preseason/ Typical huddle response. I didn't think you would admit it but you arent alone.

So Rhule just said that both Darnold and Baker would play. Which is exactly what I told you would happen yet you posted again and again arguing about how last year would be indicative of what we do this year. Obviously that was wrong. So my question is since you went back and forth about your theory which is obviously wrong, how about now admitting you were wrong and I was right. Or will you keep piling on more BS to justify your position. That would be typical aroind here where posters make a dozen posts arguing their point and when they are proven wrong there is no retraction or admission they were wrong.

I hope that Corral gets some work scrimmaging and simulating live action. He has never been under center or called protections in the NFL. What I have read suggests he did largely drills and wasnt doing many of the simulated drives and 2 minute scenarios for example. Otherwise I would hate to put him out there unless we run shotgun and simplify the playbook to help cut down on the reads and make it easy for him to execute.

Dont worry. Didn't Rhule say that Darnold wouldn't play last preseason? And didn't he just say that neither of them will play the second game? So why wouldn't he say anything similar if neither of them were playing in the first game. The answer is he would. Especially after all the talk about competition and not naming a starter. Everyone would have a field day if neither played. So it only makes sense they both will play a series or two. What happened last year has no bearing on this year or at least I certainly hope so. How much did he say CMC would play? Yeah none. So you will get your wish. They will both play as will the offensive line. And so will PJ and Corral. You heard it here first.

The nfl is a copycat league. You think that nobody can see how they do their contracts and copy that. It isn't rocket science. And no the Saints still haven't paid up yet and signed guys like Kamara to big contracts.

And they will restructure several of those huge contracts once again to lower the cap. We can sign who we want, just ask New Orleans.

You aren't following along obviously. They won't play in preseason 2 because they will take all the reps in the scrimmages for 2 days. But that doesn't mean he won't play them before then or after. Besides why give Corral and PJ all the work in preseason. PJ won't be here and obviously giving reps to Corral wasn't the plan all along or he would have gotten more work to begin with. He hardly knows the offense which is why he only played in drills and not in the 7 on 7s. Or 11 on 11s for the most part. And with the disaster last year why would you recreate that again. But no need to go back and forth 20 times. All will be revealed this weekend

I just read that Rhule said that neither Sam or Baker will play in the second preseason game because they will gets lots of work during the 2 days of scrimmage with the Patriots. That convinces me more that Sam and Baker will play quite a bit in the first scrimmage and that Corral and PJ will split the second game. No telling about the third.

Not only that but both Baker and Sam will play in the first half. How long they play is determined by how they do when they go out there and how well the line protects. Last year is history and after what happened I would think Rhule is going to do it differently. If he going to decide after game 2 who the starter will be, it makes no sense not to play Sam or Baker in the first preseason game. No I think it will Baker for 1 or 2 drives and Sam for the same. Pj gets the third quarter and Corral gets the 4th. Corral has the least grasp on the playbook so there is no way he plays that long unless we are running alot. I doubt he even has the playbook down yet. No knock on him but this offense is pretty complex and he has no experience in a pro offense or reading NFL defenses. Anyone who thinks Corral will play most of the game are not paying attention.

He already said if one plays they both will.

You only get 3 preseason games and you are building a new line. The starters need work too. It isn't like anyone except Moton is a starter on the line.

I bet both qbs play this weekend and let's see how they do. I can't imagine we won't play Baker and Darnold given the supposed competition.

The goal is to push both quarterbacks through competition. That benefits both of them and the Panthers given both guys missed time last season with injuries. We need 2 qbs who can play a few games if needed not one. Baker is going to be the starter when it matters.