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Actually the support seems legitimate and not just when in public. It is a team sport and players have to believe and trust their QB and give their all for the team. Lately that seems to be developing. As players have shared their is a different culture being built for the Panthers as winning helps players see the changes result in some success.

I see progress and improvements. We aren't the same team we were even at the beginning of this year. You want to harp on the past while I am all about the present and future. Do I know thinks are going to be great moving forward? Actually I don't but I prefer to look at the good instead of the bad. Since he is surely going to be the QB the rest of this year barring injury, I am going to root for him to succeed instead of fail. I always said if we are going to finish at 500 for the year I prefer we win at home since I will be there and want to see wins and crying opposing fans like the cowboys. So far mission accomplished. Now we have to show we can win on the road.

Totally disagree. Listen to his teammates. He is the glue that keeps the offense together. He has the confidence to Keep Pounding. If you listened to him miked up against Miami you could see him willing his teammates to stay positive which mushroomed when he lead the comeback after burying us early with errors. You can see how hard his teammates fight for him and the team. He is the heart of the offense which as a QB is his biggest job as a leader.

He is comparing him to Cam who had to wait for a player to be clearly open and try to laser it in there allowing defender to recover. Bryce does a much better job throwing to spots and trusting his guys to be where they were supposed to be. Something that was one of Cams biggest limitations and something honestly he never did well. And if the receiver isn't in the right spot it isn't the QBs fault. He is usually throwing it before the receiver makes his cut. Receivers make qbs look good or bad not usually the other way around.

Actually when he was doing this he was often sulking with a towel over his head and not rallying his team at all. It wasn't until he learned to stay positive and be a team player that he had his greatest success.

Bryce has shown he can be effective throwing when he needs too. But the goal is not be one dimensional but have the ability to run and pass when the other team tries to limit you. Most times the more a quarterback throws is inversely related to winning the game as they are likely behind and playing catchup. Bryce has shown he can throw the ball under pressure and comeback which is huge. Is he a complete QB yet? No but honestly he has played one season in this system (roughly 16 games) with a first time head coach and a team somewhat bereft of talent. What I am encouraged by is his continued progress and willingness to learn and grow. Given his incredibly poor results in year 1 and early year 2, many folks were so discouraged they gave up.on him and haven't changed their mind. When he learns how to win on the road in the NFL he will be well on his way to being our franchise qb. Did I want him as our QB? No. But he is our guy and until he is no longer here I will support him.

Most of these negative takes on Bryce not being very good or discounting his performance because he struggled early or contributed early mistakes ignore that he is incredible resilient and keeps fighting. That is incredibly important and something Cam for example struggled with for a good portion of his early career. If he played poorly at the beginning he rarely improved. When he learned to let it go and move forward, he improved significantly. Cam is also the reason I think people discount Bryce's skills. Cam was bigger than life and had physical attributes few quarterbacks can match. He challenged folks to stop him and had some great moves like his superman poses and dabbing on everyone. He was fun to watch and an icon. Bryce is almost the polar opposite of Cam. He has to use brains over brawn and use other players to get the job done. He doesn't take over the game and is kind of boring in interviews. But what he does have is confidence which makes others around him better. They are learning to trust and believe in him and play hard for him. He is a good leader who has shown this season that he can produce comebacks and win at the end. How many times in the last 10 games did he bring us back only for the defense to fail to hold the lead. Even last week after scoring late did he have to do even more after the defense gave up a late TD. If you loved Cam and want his clone you won't like Bryce ever. But Cam was unique and we might not see the likes of him again. But Bryce has the ability to win in this league and return us to competitiveness in his own way.

Of course we need to keep evolving the passing and running game. You need both as teams are always trying to take away your weapons. And running or passing when they know what you are going to do is the goal.

What I have seen are resilient players who fight for 60 minutes. A defense that needs to be turned loose and play man instead of zone. A defensive line who are solid and what I have longed for from the Panthers for years. And an offense capable of coming back and scoring in the last 2 minutes.

Keep having to beat the refs and the cow turds. Did get one call at the end though. About time. Very nice to see all those cowboy fans sad and whining.

You are the one not acknowledging what the analysts who profess credibility and back it up with videos and stats are saying which is the opposite of what you are saying. I profess no expertise but I do follow those that do and simply repost what they say. Your argument is with them. What you want is credibility without doing the work and letting nothing but your already biased views color your ongoing analysis. When you argue with videos you haven't even seen using your already always knowing, with no facts only opinions (no matter how detailed), how would anyone take you seriously.

I think the videos didn't exactly line up with your analysis. Given you have been a vocal critic that tends to severely lower your objectivity and credibility to give an unbiased opinion.

We didn't get Ransom to sit the bench but he is still learning his fits and responsibilities. He will see more field as he improves. What the defense finally did on Sunday was not have significant breakdowns with players out of place or blown coverages. As he figures that out he will ultimately become the starter because he is a dog and instinctively around the ball.

Saw this on reddit and not sure of the author but he had the data suggesting in 2025 Bryce throws as hard as most qbs. His issues are not arm strength but poor foot mechanics. Interesting video of his drops and why he goes back to 10 yards. And an analysis of the Arizona game good and bad. Nothing about can't throw off balance or on the run. More about taking care of the ball and trying to do too much which are very fixable like no turnovers by the offense on Sunday.

Mostly because once a huddler establishes a position and someone disagrees, it become a contest to win the argument and a reputation to save. Justifying their position becomes more important than the Panthers or the players since their ego and position on this message board is being challenged. That is why few people actually have an open mind or are willing to change their opinion.

You mean the current board started in 2008. Yeah I was here for the previous board as well. But if you weren't here then you wouldn't know that.

What did he say that was wrong? Bryce keeps rebounding and bouncing back? He is developing chemistry with wide receivers? He handles adversity? He was a good leader even when he was benched? All those things are widely known and acknowledged by players and the media. Did Al say he was great or a top quarterback? Did he say our offense was good? Let's see how this plays out. I am all for bringing in competition at QB and said so this year before the draft. But I am gonna root for Bryce as long as he us here. Done for now going to go shoot some black powder rifles at the range today.

I don't think we have been good yet. We were generally effective yesterday when we got scoring opportunities but struggled to move the ball under a heavy blitz and new receivers who he is still trying to develop better chemistry with and a makeshift line. And last week the comeback was impressive until it fizzled out. But week one we were bad and we have way too many penalties and picks and the occasional WTF play. We were better yesterday and the offense had no turnovers although special teams did. We are a work in progress as any panther fan would expect. I think we have the most rookies on our roster compared to any other team. No one thinks we are all that amazing or thar Bryce is the answer for sure. But we aren't the worse either and this constant negative narrative really is ridiculous and drowns out everyone else. I doubt I will be here much especially if we lose. The conversation is so negative and constant I don't even check in until Wednesday. But I will be here like always since 2004. Just not engaging in conversations with folks who just want to bitch and complain over and over with anything they can find as if that makes things better or they are saying something we all don't feel at times. Most of us realize this is year 2 of a rebuild and there are ups and downs. You have to be comfortable on the roller coaster. But anytime you point out the good you get inundated with negative crap as if we didn't see it too......

My point exactly. Does that mean they have a poor offense? Of course not. That is why cherry picking stats without context rarely results in an accurate and fair assessment.

I get a lot more than you. Scheme dictates average yards per play for example. If you run a lot like Philly your average yards per play will go down versus a team that passes all the time. And if you only play 3 games then one outlier like Jacksonville holds more weight than it should. Plus yards per play doesn't correlate to wins for example versus effectiveness in the red zone. So yeah I get it and know that stats like yards per game much like yards per play have little correlation with wins and loses and the final score is the only thing that matters at the end of the day not some BS cherry picked stat.

It also isn't close to being true. We have been at the bottom of the NFL but we aren't even the worse team in Charlotte. The Hornets haven't been to the playoffs since 2016 which is one year longer than the Panthers.

This stat has very little to do with winning games. Philadelphia is 28th at 4.4 and Tampa is 22 at 5.1 but both are undefeated. Meanwhile Dallas is 7th but is at 1-2. Points made per game versus points surrendered is the only stat that matters and we are 19th at around 20 points per game. Not great but a good recovery after week 1. Why aren't we using that stat? I guess because it doesn't look so bad and we need to keep pushing the bad Bryce narrative.

That was not the same Evero defense yesterday. He rushed 4 and 5 and generated a lot more oressure. We also used more man coverage which wasn't that often but previously almost nonexistent. I really thought this was the best game he coached.

I think we are building the defense which is who we are. As for offense we are acquiring good pieces for whoever the QB is. If not Bryce then the next one. Maybe Canales can do something with Hooker. Who knows.

I can remember feeling the same way when we would go to Atlanta and if they only won one game all year it was against us. You can see why our franchises don't like each other.