panthers55

Seriously why bitch about Tepper spending his money. You can fit anyone under the salary cap you want. We can pay Burns and do what we want. You act as if the money is coning out of your pockets. We got folks whose job is figuring this out. Couch GMs, you gotta love em.

Full control seems to be an issue. Money is no issue and it never got to the point of actual compensation. Just a rumor of what it would take which was a 1 and something else.

Plenty of time to see what happens. I don't see us giving away a ton of picks until close to the draft. Truth is if we weren't willing to give up many picks for Payton and he would have a profound effect on the team, I wonder how much we would give up to get to 1. I am looking forward to free agency and to see where Corral is in his rehab.

It the best stat to compare qbs given it takes into account numerous things. And he only does what the OC calls. He can't help we ran like crazy against Detroit. He was a game manager and did what he could to win.

Again his passing rating of 92 included this with the Saints. Shows how really good he did the other 5 games. But lets only ficus on the one bad game and not the others typically huddle illogic to fit the agenda.

He was 4-2 in 6 starts that isn't mediocre. His passer rating was 92 which is above mediocre. So no he sure sucked last year but he was actually a bright spot this year. Even against Pittsburgh and Tampa he had passer ratings of 108 both games. That is above mediocre.

What exactly could he change? CJ was our best corner and got burned. Double him? The secondary was supposed to be doing that. You can know what to do and still fail at doing it. Do you really think Wilks said don't worry about it and let's let him do it a few more times. You really want me to believe that.

Simple. He was down 2 starting corners and was starting practice squad guys. Second there was supposed to be safety coverage over the top which was late. Why the confusion? Because Wilks was down several staff including in the secondary. So he wasn't able to get them the practice they needed and do everything else as a head coach. . I read Wilks was having to work with individual players in the secondary himself because he was short on staff and there was so much to do.

Who might win 10 games in this division if not us? And how does that mesh with all the excuses that are already being pushing by huddlers that we could have a losing season and make progress because our roster is so bad.

Sounds like a lot of huddlers who keep talking about the only place to find your franchise QB is in the top 10 might disagree with you.

I really wanted Wilks as head coach and Reich as OC although I can see that they both wanted the head coaching job and not a coordinator.

I wonder how hard Wilks would have worked if he had been told he wasn't in the running. I agree he wasn't and just got the interviews because Wilks has the support of players and fans

The funny thing is that I said before we hired him that Reich is my second choice. I am not against Reich at all. But fair is fair and there was definitely a different standard applied to Wilks so that I don't think he would have been chosen no matter what. Like you I don't think it was racially motivated but I do think it surely wasn't as objective as folks want you to believe. And Reich went 12-13 last year and this year until he was fired so the idea he was the absolute best candidate is certainly not as clear as folks want you to believe.

So do you think he did a good job adjusting?? 12-13 over that time.

So what happened if he isn't running the same scheme the past year and a half..

And how well did he accomplish these goals. I didn't pay attention to Indy the last few years.

Why would we focus on what Pederson ran years ago in Philly instead of the last 4 years with Indy when he was head coach? Is he running the same scheme now or not? I didn't follow Indy so I don't have a clue but I know what the Eagles run now.

So if Reich doesn't do better than 500 in a weak division next year should he be considered a failure like Wilks? And the emphasis on the Tampa game as the end all- be all is ridiculous. We were down both our starting corners and were playing our practice squaders. What exactly was he supposed to do? Make all kinds of adjustments when we are down several coaches on defense and didn't even have enough time to install a great game plan. Whether Reich was a better option is still very much up for debate. That Reich was clearly better isn't so obvious either or we won't be having all this debate in the media.

I want Reich to see what we have, get who we can, and then match the scheme to our strengths instead of trying to make players fit roles they may not do well. We ran last year because our quarterback play was poor and our line struggled to pass block. And that is the issue. Until you have all the players to run your scheme, you have to adapt the scheme to get the most out of what you have.

What are you responding to? Not what I said which had nothing to do with why we hired Reich. Truth is Wilks had little chance to win the job and it was going to go to an offensive coach. My point was that there are different standards in play. So Wilks had to go to the playoffs and some said win a playoff game but next year if Reich goes below 500 that is fine. And as an interim coach we shouldn't hire Wilks because most interim coaches dont have a winning record moving forward. So we hire Reich who will likely have an easy schedule next year like this year but he shouldn't be expected to win next year but Wilks would have been crucified if he didnt. If you can see the different standard you have your eyes closed.

It really comes down to how the OC melds with Reich and whether he can carry out what he wants.

I agree I don't think it was racist either and it isn't based on records or other things other than Tepper is focused on football and has made unpopular decisions like hiring Eric Reid in the past regardless of what was going on ignoring the racial implications. But yeah on the surface it looks unfair although not racist from my viewpoint.

Again you are doing the same things folks are accusing other people of doing, justifying Reich's hire by making excuses when you didn't do the same for Wilks. You could actually make a strong case that Wilks did a much better job than Reich. Sure you can keep falling back on the excuse of offense versus defense but that is basically it. No way did Reich earn this job on his coaching but his potential which we will all see soon enough.

Yeah he sets the tone and likely know what he wants to do but the idea that we will be great on offense because Reich knows offense may not be true if we dont have good coaches on the offensive side. He needs to get the OC right or the advantage of having Reich might be somewhat muted.

Aren't we constantly being told that draft position makes all the difference and you can't find a QB late in the draft? How many snaps did Purdy take in the regular season before he started. You seem to have taken the illogical to another level. And you missed the whole point which is that a good scheme can make even a marginal QB look much better than they would be just based on draft position. And if we get one of the top qbs in the league, then if Reich is as good as advertised then he should have them playing at a high level much like Purdy.