cranky

https://x.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/2003155584129122655 Tried to embed it but apparently I failed lol

They lie everyday in everything we do - especially in this day and age. Being analytical and using stats properly is the only way to discern the facts from emotions.

Maybe the simple answer is it takes time for rookies to get up to speed in the NFL. That's pretty much all Canale and Young had to work with early- unless you want to count Legette as a deep threat. Thielen was gone and Cooker was on IR. I think the offense is improving simply with playing time for the rookies and time for Young, TMac and Cooker to get used to one another.

Yeah bring him back but have someone else ready to replace him if he looks the same midseason next year.

I do not have a problem with him highlighting his strong performance and I actually agreed with him in his previous post talking about how good he looks. I just don't understand why he can't just make a comment without having to bash Young in the process.

Well earned!

Since Shough started, Young has thrown for 1306 yards and 12 TD's. The Panthers as a team have only rushed for 764 yards, scoring only 4 TD's. Not sure how can you say Young isn't doing a ton of heavy lifting when he alone accounts for 64% of the yardage and 75% of the TD. I'll give you the fact the Panthers were leaning on the run game early on but since the Green bay game, it has not really been that productive.

You keep confusing team stats with QB stats. While the TEAM may be 27th in scoring, Young, as I pointed out earlier, is 14th in TD% (TD's as a percentage of total yards throw). So he is pretty efficient at scoring passing TD's. If there is a problem, it might be that they have only scored 8 rushing TDs and Young was one of them. For comparison, the Falcons have 16. So as you can see, a TEAMS ability to score isn't wholly dependent on the QB and isn't a very good metric to measure them by.

A QB's average yards thrown is a pretty useless stat to measure them buy. They could average 300 yards a game but yards don't score points, TD's do.

No it isn't. Starting against an easy defense is nothing like starting against a stout defense. There is nothing fairer than comparing their performance against the same teams. You just don't like it because it makes your boy look bad.

Odd that you can't figure out they both played against the same defenses so it is only fair that they be compared against those same defenses. Seriously, you couldn't figure that out, especially given I said "apples to apples".

Since your being selective (and somewhat deceptive) with your comparisons, I'll throw this up so we can compare apples to apples. Both Young and Shough have played against the Rams. Young went: 15/20 (75%) for 191 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs with a 147.1 QB rating Shough went: 15/24 (62.5%) for 176 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT with a 81.2 QB rating Both Young and Shough have played against the Buccs. Young went: 21/32 (65%) for 206 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs with a 102.5 QB rating Shough went: 13/20 (65%) for 176 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT with a 65.4 QB rating Both Young and Shough have played against the Falcons. Young went: 31/45 (75%) for 448 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs with a 123.2 rating Shough went: 30/43 (69.7%) for 243 yards, 0TD, 1 INT with a 74 QB rating Seriously, in what world is Shough a better QB.

I put actual muners up showing how CRA is totally wrong with his claim that Shough leads Young. Not only did I include their stats, but I included every QB around them. Not sure how that is not being rational.

I SHOWEDE you my stats. Now show me your stats showing where Shough leads in EVERY catagory.

You just keep making stuff up. Bryce leads him in QB rating, TD% and INT%.

I have NEVER seen a Panthers's fan so willing to throw their QB under the bus while singing praises for a division rivals' QB. You should just stop pretending you are a Panthers fan and go over to the Saints board.

Those are team stats which are dependant on the O line, the receivers, the rushers, the offensive play calling etc. They are useless when evaluating Young.

I think Nijmans' run blocking was pretty bad

Career stats are useless for assessing how someone is playing the current season.

The sad part is he actually gets open.

And what does any of that have to do with the guy complaining about all the interceptions Young throws?

21 TDs to only 9 INTS this season. Do you even watch the game?

Go to the 3:55 mark lol

He has looked very good in limited action with the Packers and he will be a free agent next year. I bring him up even though I am a Bryce supporter. While I do think Bryce will be a good QB, I also agree that depending on how the rest of the season goes, they may want a plan B. I think Willis might be that guy to push Bryce. Not sure what he would cost though.