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He was 3/4 today so it was just the one drop. Coker was 3/8 on the other hand

I agree. The problem is I know at least 3 of them where on 3rd downs ending drives. When your coach is not asking you to throw it often, they all count I guess I'm just trying to point out that while BY may not have lit it up today, I can't help but think he was better than a lot of people are giving him credit for given the drops at critical times.

Does anyone know how many drops the receivers had today. I know Legette had one and I believe Moore and Hubbard both had one but how many did Cooker have? I believe it was 2? And how many of the drops where on 3rd down?

As are the Panthers in case you havent noticed.

And Kirk Cousins is 36 and look what the Falcons just paid him. Matthew Stafford is also 36 and while he barley got to the playoffs with the lions, he won a SB after leaving. Now I'm not saying Dalton is Rodgers or Matthews good and I am not expecting them to win the SB but I don't think his age should be a concern.

It's not pretty BUT, Marvin Lewis was his head coach those years and his playoff record is 0-7. The other two years he had Carson Palmer in the playoffs and the results were the same. Not so sure its a reflection of Dalton as much as its a reflection of Lewis.

Really. Kirk Cousins is 36 years old and the Falcons just signed him to a 4 year, 180 million contract. Aaron Rodgers is 40 and just signed for two years at 75 million. Matthew Stafford is 36 and I think the Rams are still pretty happy with him. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss him simply because of his age. QBs are protected much more than they used to be, health science is more developed and he has less wear and tear from sitting than all the other QBs listed.

Sometimes when things are going bad you have to look for the silver linings. Some people around here seem to forget that.

Worth the 10 minutes... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEiR40jC0O4

And I thought I was the only Joseph Campbell fan around here

There are haters here? Guess I shouldn't break out the Shakespeare huh lol

Part 2: "They secretly compared hIm to their own men, thinking that for all their lives theirs were incapable of doing what he could do in one night, and they ended up dismissing them deep in their hearts as the weakest, meanest and most useless creatures on earth. They were wandering through that maze of fantasy when the oldest woman, who as the oldest had looked upon the drowned man with more compassion than passion, sighed: 'He has the face of someone called (CAM)."

Reading all these posts about Cams' return brought to memory a short story I had to read in college over 30 years ago.... ".....Fascinated by his huge size and his beauty, the women then decided to make him some pants from a large piece of sail and a shirt from some bridal brabant linen so that he could continue through his death with dignity. As they sewed, sitting in a circle and gazing at the corpse between stitches, it seemed to them that the wind had never been so steady nor the sea so restless as on that night and they supposed that the change had something to do with the dead man. They thought that if that magnificent man had lived in the village, his house would have had the widest doors, the highest ceiling, and the strongest floor, his bedstead would have been made from a midship frame held together by iron bolts, and his wife would have been the happiest woman. They thought that he would have had so much authority that he could have drawn fish out of the sea simply by calling their names and that he would have put so much work into his land that springs would have burst forth from among the rocks so that he would have been able to plant flowers on the cliffs." Ironically this is all concerning a dead man. Hopefully the OL won't get him killed as well lol.

I would guess the two go hand in hand

It has nothing to do with the record or Ron Rivera. It's about the Panther's winning in Atlanta today with some great defensive plays and a gutsy game from SD.

I am

Reality is they won today so celebrate

Yeah I hate to be the bearer of bad news lol

Darnold missed part of the early 2019 season and when he came back he threw only 1TD to 3 Ints and the Jets went 1-3. However, over the last eight games of that season, he threw 13 TD's to only 4 Ints and the Jets went 6-2. And this was against the Bills, Ravens and Pittsburg so they weren't exactly against weak teams. Don't be surprised if he bounces back here as well.

Yeah but he also has a heck of an offensive line in front of Winston and Winston has always been better than Darnold. Not taking anything away from Payton - he is a great coach but it's not really a fair comparison.

Actually it isn't. If you look at the last 5 games last year, his catch rate was 57%, 66%, 40%, 70% and 42% so it looks like his downfall actually started last year.

Thanks for the clarification. So basically, if we can find a trade partner, he would basically wind up costing a 2nd, 4th, 6th and an additional midround draft spot in addition to his current pay for this years' performance. It's better than 18M but still -

lol I'm not even sure what your trying to say. Am I off about Rhule not wanting either of them? I thought Rhule had final say in all personnel decisions?

This is what I read: "At one point, Panthers head coach Matt Rhule was watching a New York Jets tape and was impressed with Darnold. He went into Fitterer’s office and wondered if Darnold might be available via trade. Darnold had had a terrible statistical year for the 2-14 Jets in 2020, after all." https://newsbrig.com/the-real-story-behind-why-sam-darnold-became-panthers-qb-instead-of-deshaun-watson/429356/