Matthias

Here's my strategy going forward. We draft Jalin Hyatt in the 2nd (if he's there). Then next year, we sell our souls in order to move up and get Marvin Harrison. Whatever we have minus Brian Burns, use it. So for the next few years, Stroud will have Harrison, Thielen, Hyatt, TMJ, and Hurst to work with.

Yep, at this point I would even venture to say the Panthers are trying to not only tempt the Texans to trade up, but also tempt them into drafting Bryce Young.

Schefty just mad because Aaron Rodgers told him to lose his number.

If Jaylin Hyatt is there in the 2nd, I would go after him.

Here's how I see it. There is really no down side to Stroud. The biggest knock on him is that he was throwing to hall of fame wide receivers. The worst I see for him down the road is being a decent to good quarterback. Bryce Young on the other hand is more of a gamble. Not that he doesn't have the talent, but can he last long enough in this league to have good success? So can you imagine we draft Young and he struggles or get hurt, while Stroud goes on to be a prolific QB? Personally, I can live with us picking Stroud and Young goes on to have the better career. Yet I would be devastated if we take Young and he flames out.

Haha, Young isn't just a short QB. Him being at 6'0"-6'1" would be considered short. This guy is toddler sized. If we are picking, and Stroud and Young are on the board, I would be disappointed if we didn't pick Stroud. Now if we trade down to Houston and they select Stroud, I would be okay with Young being the pick. (Assuming we get Houston's extra 1st in the trade down)

Well, Steph is a lanky 6'3". Besides, this is a collision sport. Not only that, but I believe Young's size will limit how far he is able to go in this league. I might be the only one in this camp, but I think NFL defenses are going to have a ball in batting down his passes.

If the Jets want him, they can trade for Matt Corral.

CMC looking up and seeing Darnold under center at the start of the season...

Heehee! Are you trying to hold Bozeman's newborn hostage so he won't leave Carolina?

Shoot, as much as I love and root for Foreman, I would like to go after David Montgomery. He looks like he's ready to light the league on fire.

Lets just say next year, we will get fleeced

We would have to trade up into the top three then.

That's what I'm thinking there. I wouldn't trade the pick to the Colts though. They would punk us and draft Stroud or Young. The Texans on the other hand, if they give us their extra 1st round pick and they draft Richardson, that would be a FLEECE!!!!!!!!!!!

Not at one. If we stay there, its going to be Stroud. If we trade down to 2, it will be either Stroud or Young depending on who's there. The only way we draft Richardson is if we trade down further than the top two spots. I don't see us doing that. There is really nothing Richardson can say or do that would warrant us picking him over Stroud or Young. These reports are nothing but our front office putting out smoke screens. Keeping everybody on their toes.

Come on folks, we all know Stroud is the pick at one.

I wouldn't trade for a receiver. For me, we need to save what ammo we can in order to move up and get Marvin Harrison next year. I'm willing to sell all the marbles to get him.

I hear you. The NFL is just a different beast. I remember a couple of games this year with Mayfield, and one where he had 8-9 batted passes. It stunned me because that wasn't something he was known for. I fear Young may have a good year or two, but then the NFL see something that's specific to his size, and they exploit that for the rest of his career.

Most people bring up Young's size in relation to if he can hold up health wise in the league. Yet for me it's not only that, I actually believe his size will effect his overall play as a QB in this league. I'm thinking about the amount of balls that will be swatted out of the air like flies. Nothing grinds my gears more than seeing a 10 yard pass batted down at the line of scrimmage, and see it intercepted. I feel that is going to be a regular occurrence for Young at his size. He's not going to line up in the shotgun 100% of the time like he did in college. He will be placed under center at times, making him closer to the line, and d-lineman will be licking their chops! While SEC defenses usually have NFL caliber players, college football is still college football. You also only stay in college for 3-4 years. In the NFL, Young will have a 10-15+ year career. That is plenty of time for NFL defenses to adjust to his play and shut him down if his play is dictated by his size. (By this, I mean if he has to adjust his throwing angle in any way due to his height, or if he has to move around a lot to have clear throwing paths.) So I mentioned this in another thread, how many top QBs in the NFL are above 6' tall? How many top QBs in the NFL are under 6' tall? Based on that answer, you have to draft the guy that fits the model. You can't screw around with this pick because you think a guy has talent or shown he has talent. You have to consider talent, size, and what other metrics there is. Young only ticks the talent metric.

How many of today's top QBs are at least 6' tall? How many of today's top QBs are under 6' tall? There is no question who we should draft in my estimation.

I would only do it if I was sure they will take Young, and I could get their extra 1st.

Burns ain't getting traded. Our current defensive coordinator was with the Rams when they offered two 1sts for Burns. I'm sure Evero played a part in that, so he wouldn't like if we traded Burns now. Heck, Burns may be a reason he decided to come here.

Some Saints fans are saying we might take Richardson. LOL!!!