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Idk if that's going to work when you draft WRs like the panthers do in recent years. They think the big ass dudes who can't separate will all eventually turn into DK Metcalf or AJ Brown. And it hasn't happened yet. They keep trying to draft the same fu cking dude over and over and expect different results. Maybe draft a smaller shiftier speedster like Tank Dell next time. I will definitely eat my words if Mingo, TMJ or Legette works out. But if we have another poo season and they all look like bums again, I'll have lost all faith in the panthers ability to evaluate WR talent and just assume DJ Moore was just a lucky dart throw .

Pretty much my thoughts. The last thing a terrible rebuilding team needed was trading up for an early round luxury pick on an injured RB. We're going to know pretty quickly how this turns out when the season starts imo. If Corbett isn't good at Center or gets hurt again Morgan and Canales will look just as idiotic as Fitterer and Rhule/Reich ever did. I really like what the Steelers did is similar to what I wanted in our draft. We could've rebuilt our o line like this for the cheap, grabed a solid wr and MLB, and call it a day. Not rocket science.

That's my main issue with that pick. It's a lot fuging easier to get a serviceable RB just about anywhere compared to getting a young starting center for the next decade to complement spending a shitload of money on LG and RG in free agency. Expecting Corbett to stay healthy and excell at a position he's never played before is almost insanity to me. We're going to see this season whether that gamble pays off for them or not.

Yeap something we already knew even before he was drafted. It's not something that matters too much if you're really good at being a QB. But if you're bad at qb, your lack of a commanding voice or inspirational leadership abilities makes makes the situation look worse on a perpetually losing team

Wasn't Baker Mayfield being clowned on lastoff-season?? And he ended up having a pretty good year and going to the playoffs with Tampa Bay. I know he's not a QB but I also remember people panicking when Jamar Chase was dropping a bunch of balls the off-season before his rookie year started. Then he did great when the actual games started. Bryce had almost nothing but high praise all off season before his rookie year actually started. Then he proceeded to fall off a cliff and be the worst starting QB in the league. People put way too much stock into off season practices.

Notice how people are all using the exact same picture as their evidence that Bryce gained a ton of muscle. Not that that muscle really matters for a QB that much. AR was rocked the hell up and he couldn't stay healthy. Mahomes looks very average or even chubby and he's the best qb in the league. This is just an off season gossip session because there's not much else going on

I think Canales definitely deserves more than 1 year from Tepper. Especially if Bryce ends up sucking. Canales deserves the chance to pick his own QB, he should really get 3 years or the 2 and some change Rhule got at the very least...

This is the best way to look at it imo. I cant exactly remember but I'm pretty sure there were plenty here over the moon for Rhule and Reich and we see how that ended up I particularly remember it with Rhule. People loved the way he talked and inspired at first. Then his message just soured and everyone turned against him eventually when we weren't winning enough games.

He probably can't improve his arm strength for throwing over pressure, the video creator mentioned bryces inability to throw over pressure multiple times. That kinda stuck out to me. If his ideal comp is like a Tua 2.0 then they're definitely gonna have to get some really good players around him. And you better hope Canales is the next coming of Mike McDaniels

I was just about to post this. Great video and it's not too long + Some nice throws, especially in the intermediate middle of the field + Ability to extend plays + Better than you'd think at scrambling/running - Poor deep ball arm strength, especially while under pressure - Lot of inaccurate throws otherwise especially outbreaking routes Bryce would commonly overthrow WRs down the field on/near the hashes - His short stature affects his ball trajectory/field vision when defensive players get close to Bryce and see him loading up to throw - Bad at escaping pressure/sacks - Needs to get better with turnovers/decision making > Mingo lost a ton of potential yards while open, because Bryce threw him a Ton of uncatchable balls > Bryces WRs were near the bottom of the league in WR separation metrics > O line was horrendous and played a big role

Shedeur Sanders, Carson Beck, and Quinn Ewers are the most plausible prospects. But there are always QBs that will unexpectedly be really good that most people don't expect.

You could just pin a Bryce Young off-season talk thread at the top of the page

Didn't he already have that last year? The Chicago game was the only one I didn't watch or listen to live. I watched a quick replay of it and don't even remember how dj Moore did. Wasn't much offense from either team iirc

It's going to cause such a poo storm on this forum if Bryce starts out similar to last year and Caleb beats our asses immediately

Is this more of an indictment on Brooks' recovery timetable or on how much they dislike miles Sanders lol

I kinda want to use this as a barometer of how people feel about Bryce as well. But the main purpose of this thread is mainly for those who have either mixed feelings or feel negative about Bryce. What exactly would it take for you to believe he's the franchise qb for the next decade? Or maybe simplifying that question, what kind of stats would he need in need to really earn a top 10 qb deal/market rate for a 2nd contract with the panthers? Maybe that's a broader question because they could hold on to him for 4 or 5 years. Maybe the key factor here is I don't believe Canales is tied to Bryce at all emotionally. I don't truly know how much weight he has in the room to be able to move on from Bryce if he sucks again I guess, but I don't see him just sitting on his hands if we go 2 to 4 wins again. I'll try my hand at it here. I'd say something like 25 TDs 15 INTs or less, 3000+ passing yards, around 65%+ completions. Wins and losses not be as relevant of a stat prediction for Bryce alone, but I would assume if we're at least somewhat competitive for the division that helps his case a lot. If we have a winning record or a playoff appearance (or both), either of those may be more than enough regardless of Bryces performance because of how long we've been in a playoffs/winning season drought. Looking at the opposite end of the spectrum, I doubt this happens with all the changes BUT. If Bryce turns in another year with a 1:1 TD:INT ratio again or a negative ratio that's gonna spell trouble. Even if he has God awful stats he'd definitely still be on the team year 3 contractually, but I'd say that Canales wouldn't be beholden to keep starting him unless there was a directive from teppper to do so. People keep saying the 2025 draft is a dead zone for QBs but Quin Ewers, Carson Beck, and Shedur Sanders are all of age, and any of them or someone else could blow up by the end of the next college season.

A lot of us were calling for offensive line help this draft this off-season after seeing it collapse last year due to injuries. I personally found it bizzare that they would spend so much addressing RG and LG. And then just do a patch job at C relying on two guys that have been injured two years in a row and have minimal experience playing the position in the NFL. What were your thoughts on this? This is probably the main thing the made me not love this draft. If wed drafted JPJ or Frazier in R2 and gotten a decent RB later it woudlve been perfect to me. I feel like all that money they spent will be pissed into to the wind if Corbett/Christensen/Mays suck and/are injured.

They really should have gotten JPJ or Frazier in R2 and picked up a RB later R1 Legette R2 JPJ or Frazier can't remember which was available, both were if we didn't trade down iirc R3 Payton Wilson R4 Sanders or RB of choice R5-R7 depth, personally I woudlve gotten Brendan Rice in R6

C+ or B- . The offensive players we got look good but I wasn't impressed at all with the defensive selections. We'll see I guess. Defintely will re-evaluate the grade after their first year is over. I think particularly if we hit big on 2 of the of offensive players itll be a great draft from that alone. Getting that R2 pick next year back was probably my favorite thing about this draft even above any of the players. That was a gaping hole in the 2025 draft that I was miffed about when we did the trade up for Bryce. That trade down by Morgan this weekend effectively stopped the bleeding from the Bryce trade up, draft capital wise.

Didn't that happen with DJ Johnson too? Evero might be a good coach but not sure if I trust his talent evaluation abilities

I'm kinda iffy on these defensive picks in this draft . At least we've got decent depth at interior line backers now.

It's nuts we didn't take any offensive line players in the whole draft. Staff must be super high on our depth and Corbett

Chargers picked up Joe Alt, Ladd McConkey and Brendan Rice. Thats pretty damn good considering they lost both their starting WRs in free agency

No clue about this guy. Late round CB depth most likely.

I'm really surprised the Panthers got a popular fan pick JaTavion Sanders. Very common mock draft target in R3 and R4. R5 - R7 is typically a crapshoot. I'm personally looking at Oline depth and BPA I guess. I don't think Corner is high on their priority list.