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We are absolutely fuged at cb man.

Strongly agree but we also just need to draft better in general. Check my draft thread most of our drafts in the last decade have been horrible

Yea some of those are debatable. Chin had a good year but recently hasn't done much I kinda struggled to justify adding him. I guess by my lower standards he's been a consistent contributor but idk how good he's been outside year 1.

I almost didn't even include this year's draft. But from the early signs it could possibly be the worst draft the panthers ever had if Bryce and Mingo fail.

Are we really almost 500 despite all the losing we've been doing since 2018??? Worst are Jets, Browns, Jags, Giants, Bears apparently. Didn't realize the jags was that bad yeesh. They've got the worst losing percent by a landslide

We've been generally terrible at drafting for several years and its an huge contributing factor to our losing mostly since 2017. Let's go over last 10 years: Either a pick is a hit or miss given, I consider a pick a hit if the player was at least a good or great contributor for more than 1 year to the team. I tried to be a little lenient in the sense they don't have to be super stars or pro bowler 2019 to 2022 in particular are extremely bad and those probably have the highest impact on this current team. 2013: 3/5 hits (Star, Short, AJ Klein) 2014: 4/6 hits (KB, T.Turner, T.Boston, B. benwikere) 2015: 2/5 (Shaq, Funchess) 2016: 1/5 (Bradberry) 2017: 3/7 (CMC, Samuel, Moton) 2018: 2/8 (DJ Moore, Donte Jackson) 2019: 1/7 (Brian Burns) 2020: 1/7 (Derrick Brown) 2021: 1/11 (Brady Christensen) 2022: 1/6 (Ickey Ekwonu) 2023: 2/5 (Almost impossible to grade but, maybe Bryce and Mingo.) **a little hard to grade due to KB being a bit controversial but he definitely contributed to the team for more than a year ** 2021 is a little debatable but Horn has been comprised due to injury, I don't think Hubbard has been that good just decent. These drafts are much worse if you grade more harshly. A lot of people don't think KB or Funchess were worth much

4.0 ypc vs Falcons 3.1 ypc vs Saints 2.7 ypc vs Seahawks Pretty underwhelming considering what we were doing with Foreman last year. It's also sort of baffling they don't even try to use the other backs much. The panthers have made so many shitty moves from draft picks to free agents man. Jesus Christ man.

I compared him to cams rookie performance you could argue that's not fair but I call bull poo . We traded away a lot more assets to get Bryce, Cam was our last #1 overall pick and he balled from game 1 I just hate how divided the Bryce pick made our fan base. And it's going to get progressively worse until he improves his performance, regardless of the reasons why he's been underperformed. I was griping that we picked young and I think I was almost banned here in the off season so I just stopped. All was trying to say is people here just didn't even consider the possibility that Bryce would fail and thats why everyone here is reacting so badly to his underperformance. Almost everyone got sacked up in to the hype train and it was a tsunami that drowned out any dissenting voices.

What the actual fug is this season Watch Dalton actually play some competent football win if he starts. Then poo will really hit the fan here

He's an injury prone bust he can go home permanently for all I care

Funchess did way more than Marshall has done

None of that matters if you can't score points.

Not good 2 bad ints and a number of innacurate throws in key situations. Cam blew me away in his debut and Bryce just played like any typical 2nd 3rd 4th round rookie QB in terms of the results he left on the field . It wasn't horrible? I guess but he didn't do anything to justify that trade up to 1. I'll be so livid if we end up giving the Bears a top 10 pick and Bryce ends up being Mediocre. Its early but game 1 was not encouraging.

This team looks totally inept Atlanta is far from a good team Stark contrast between Bryces first game and Cams. I didn't see anything from Bryce Young that impressed me or validated that trade up.

Lol

Winning cures all, people are just sick of constant losing seasons

Basically qb money

He's not worth top of the market money imo but the panthers might have to pay him close to that to keep him on the team. I'm not sure we have any pass rush without him...

I don't care if this is pre season this team looks absolutely putrid

I'm a truck driver and probably working until midnight I'll be listening to the game

fug this O line!!!! fug!!

God this offense is trash Corral missed bad on that throw to Ian Thomas he was wide open with space ahead

Gonna be real interesting if Corral can actually get this offense beyond mid field lol I hope he doesn't get killed from that o line

Not an indictment on Bryce but the offense is extremely worrying. It's Worse than last year. Chubby getting 0 on the ground and the o line isn't blocking for Bryce to pass the ball down the field more than 10 yards.