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What? Weren't a lot of them high on stroud? Chris Simss had stroud ranked over Bryce at least.

I'm tempted to just listen to the radio call while playing video games again

Why even throw the ball on 3rd and long when we all know it's going to be a pass near or just beyond the LOS?

Absolutely atrocious Start by the offense.

Icky just got blown by on the first play of the game Were already loading up on penalties Not sure if I'm feeling the black shirts and white pants

Yea I'm curious how it'll change as well. Definitely need a whole season of games to really dive into it

For example look at this proposed trade. I personally would be upset and wouldn't agree with it unless it's for a devante Adam's caliber player. We're already missing a 1st in 2024 and a 2nd in 2025, you want to cripple those drafts even further by more unknown caliber wrs??

Ravens are obliterating the lions

Watching red zone is so much more entertaining than watching panthers games

I thought that was the giants playing the browns but it's the colts wtf The colts qb fumbled as soon as I started watching in this restaurant

Bad drafting over years leads to situations like this

No fuging way

I'm seeing after the bye we play the Texans Colts and Bears. These teams don't seem as good as what we've just recently went through. Do you think we win any of these games? I haven't watched many games from other teams this year, mostly just highlights. Is there anyone here who has watched games from these 3 teams that can tell me more about them?? Even after this we still have a good number of divisional games where it really can be unpredictable and close. I don't think we go 0-17, realistically. More like 2-15 to 5-12 range.

I hate how easily this team will go away from running the ball even in close games. We just get a bunch of short passes that do nothing or get sacks/fumbles/turnovers. Predictable.

I play video games while listening to the games on radio. Or do other busy work like washing clothes or cleaning stuff or anything else I need to do on Sundays.

Not necessarily. Assuming you mean we kept rhule he won 5 games his first 2 years and won 1 game before he was fired. I think they would've still won 4 or 5 games and we wouldn't have drafted Bryce at that position unless they still decided to trade up, or the Bryce just fell to them.

I hate how people act like you can only take one extreme or another. The truth is he is a rookie but he simultaneously needs to play better. You can criticize a rookie qb and still be a fan You can acknowledge he hasn't lived up to the hype yet while also admitting he has the chance to improve and be better in the future. At this point in my opinion he's disappointing considering what he did in college and how he was portrayed by the media and the panthers brass isn't what we are seeing on the field and that is what most people are upset about and it's compounded by the fact stroud is basically doing what we thought Bryce would do. You don't need to attack people for criticizing the qb imo. But the criticism shouldn't be leaking into personal attacks or extreme judgements when he's only played 4 games.

I'm just waiting for a game where he throws multiple tds and doesn't have turnovers

Agreed that was an insanely accurate take

Just look at the pie ratio almost everyone agreed until it got closer to the draft and the Bryce media hype train started to gain traction I think when it became clearer that we were going to draft Young a lot of people here started convincing themselves he was the right pick. To the point where most people were hard core Bryce stands (seemingly) right before the draft. And now that's backfired.

Rookie year I won't be anything besides disappointed with poor performance. But it would be nice to see him put together some complete games (ex 2-4 tds, no ints or fumbles, 300 yards passing). If he can't play a good clean game even once this year I'm gonna be fairly negative by the end of the year but not "out " on him 2nd year, if he continues to consistently underperform, I'd probably be mentally done with him halfway through that season. Def by the end of it. I kinda wish we could do a goff/rams senario where he sucked with Jeff fisher but ripped it up with mcvay and promptly out dueled mahomes one year and went to a super bowl soon after. We need a mcvay instead of a Reich. And a real gm to get Bryce some help. And tepper needs to let actual football people manage the team and go do other billionaire poo. That might be the biggest problem in the last few years since he bought the panthers. The only common denominator amongst all this 5 to 6 years of losing has been David Tepper.

You're just nut hugging if you repeatedly deflect all blame from Bryce it's getting old. The circumstances around him aren't the best. But he sure as hell hasn't been doing much to elevate the talent around him. The best qbs like mahomes and Brady do that. That's why you see new England shitting their pants right now. Sorry ass qb play. His untimely turnovers in particular were back breakers in at least 3 out of his 4 games

I laughed at the "deep throat " WR part lol

Almost all of those need context. Just looking at numbers Bryces look decent for a rookie. But how many of those tds came late in games when the opposing defense was playing looser to prevent big plays, and how many of those ints came at crucial moments in the game that let the other team run away with them momentum and the game? And it doesn't include his fumbles either And ton of his passes are completed near or at the Los. Something more useful would be a breakdown of completion percentages from specific throwing yards ranges Just glancing at those numbers you might give him a B or something as a quarter season report, but using the eye test he's played like a C or D in critical moments.

I think that Reich mainly accepted the job not because it was the most ideal spot but he simply needed a job and I'm guessing there weren't a ton of other teams who were willing to hire a coach that got canned mid season for Jeff Saturday to be the interim coach. It's possible tepper told him ahead of time in the interviews that he was a "hands on" owner and frank just took it anyway.