Knaakedup

This right here is the thing. If we had any eye for available talent for cheap to replace DJ Moore we would have acquired him for absolutely nothing. Now, here we are with a middle of the pack DE wanting top 3 DE money, no true #1 WR, and wondering how we got here. It’s embarrassing when the message board can see the writing on the wall before the GM does.

For real, get the Hurn dog back for 1st round picks only

That’s exactly what should be done. We will see if the ego at the top allows it to happen.

This is the way. But it should start in a week or two.

And to touch on the Burns thing, I was beating that drum last year like a madman but here we are. He has to be offloaded at this point, accept that we are actually in a full rebuild and acquire as much capital as we can to fix this within a few years before Bryce enters the new contract time.

I have some sad realizations to bring here, there's a 0% chance we will be .500 at the trade deadline. Looking at the schedule there is one, maybe two games we have a chance at - Bears and Falcons. Even then I won't be surprised if we come out of that on the losing side. The problem with some people saying "you want to fire someone after 3 games? that's ridiculous", is yes, yes I absolutely do. You can just see that he doesn't have what it takes, it's the wrong hire and the quicker we get out from this the quicker we can get back to being respectable.

Honestly, the way to go here might be to dump Reich midseason and let Evero take command to see what he's got in him. Get Brown operating the offense and see what the difference looks like. If its night and day, then that answers the questions and we proceed with them without having to do a full coaching staff rebuild. Fit still has to go though.

I fully agree with this as well. We’re currently at the bottom as an organization with no clear path to the top.

I completely agree with this, which blows my mind.

It won't be the primary game on. The red rifle gets relegated to the multi view on the secondary TV for YoutubeTV. That allows me to occasionally glance at the train wreck without having to listen to it as well.

EXACTLY

This will never happen, but ripcording out of this situation before seasons end would put us in a position within 2 seasons to know what we got and if we need to try again at the QB position.

Don’t know about that. If this continues the way it has been, I wouldn’t be shocked to see him ousted. The fan base is not in a good place at the moment.

We have a very bad habit of retaining players, staff members, etc. for entirely too long. I don’t know if it’s ego, stubbornness, mix of both, but it would keep me engaged if I saw they were self-aware of their mistakes and made moves to course correct. I look at the Cardinals a few years ago (granted, it hasn’t fully panned out for them lol) when they drafted Rosen round 1. They knew very quickly that wasn’t the right move and moved on immediately. The quicker we move on from Frank the quicker we might get someone here who knows how to work with Bryce the right way and reach his potential.

Agreed 10000%

I dunno, Wilks was better than Reich but he was just another conservative old guy like Ron. Tepper couldn't hire the right person if McVay or Shanahan walked up to him and smacked him right in the face with a giant dildo.

I could partially agree with that. Then maybe it falls on Tepper for hiring an old man that looks like he has more fun giving out non full-size candy bars on halloween to see the disappointment in children's faces than he does calling offensive plays. Frank wasn't the right hire to re-energize this base. Bryce was the option by pure happenstance of available QBs in the class, but I just haven't seen anything yet from him that gives me hope. I don't mean to always fall back on old memories here, but watching Cam, he immediately came out and HAD IT, whatever that IT was and I just knew we finally had our guy and didnt care that we lost those games. I was hopeful and excited about what was to come, and I have nothing like that here.

I appreciate you!

I appreciate your support here

This staff came into this season all wrong. Instead of leading everyone on with making us think and believe we were "just a QB away" from contending, they should have leaned hard into a rebuild and all of this would be much easier to swallow. Not only that, we literally have nobody on this roster that is a "cornerstone player" like Luke, TD, Olsen, or Cam. This team is just so sad and unrecognizable compared to previous iterations. We've had 2 strong eras of different players that gave this team an identity, first being the Delhomme, Smitty, and Peppers time. Both of these eras led to a Super Bowl. I look at this mish mash of random players and theres just no fuging way we're going anywhere close to the promised land any time soon. There isn't a single player on this team that I am attached to like I have been during each one of those eras. Fit is a complete dumbass for not taking those picks for Burns last year, which would have set us up nicely to retain capital we needed to find those future cornerstone players and not come into the season with a wide receiver group that share lead soles in their cleats. That whiff alone is an offense that should have him sailing away into the sunset. What are we going to do now? Pay top 5 DE money for a middle of the pack player that shows up every other game? Trade him when everyone knows that we would only be trading him to get away from that contract so we will end up with half of what was offered last year? fuging disaster. Since game 1 of preseason we have looked like a complete dumpster fire with offensive ideas from Madden on easy mode. I cannot wrap my head around how we are so damn cursed with offense here. I know people are saying to give Frank time, blah, blah, blah, but c'mon guys, his poo does not pass the eye test. Our offense looks the exact same as it did in preseason when we "weren't showing our hand". My desire to watch Andy Dalton be our QB this weekend puts me as a fan at an all time low. Like, somehow worse than an imaginary game with Pickles as our QB and Rhule being the coach. No opinion yet on Bryce, he's a complete "whatever, man" in my world right now until he has something that resembles a competent coaching staff that properly builds around his strengths and for the love of god, get some real weapons. Other than that we should be offloading everyone else. Burn this ship to the ground and try again before we waste more years. Frank is not the guy, I've seen enough. Amass as much draft capital as possible, trade back every round, i don't give a fug, but own the fact that we've done nothing but make bad move after bad move for the last 4 years and commit to fixing it, not slapping bandaids on it to keep butts in the seats. I'm sure someone will chime in here "who do you suggest as a coach, genius" and to that I say - no fuging clue, I'm not that guy, but lord knows I have seen enough bad coaching staffs being a fan of this team to already know this one isn't taking us where we want to go.

I just don't understand how we seem to always be the team stuck with prehistoric offensive philosophies. Frank has no business calling the plays, why even hire the other guy if he's not going to be the OC. Focus on being the coach, fix the mess that this is, and let the OC call the plays.

fug it, he’s now our deep threat. only partially joking here.

For sure, completely agree. But watching them against the Bills and I’m like “oh, well that kinda makes more sense now”

We were severely overly critical of our offense during that preseason game. That defense is legit and that D line is an absolute terror.

Called it as soon as he just sat down. 10000% popped his Achilles. He’s done for. I feel more sympathy for my bets I made that included him having a decent game than I do for the individual.