carpanfan96

Hope he's OK.

Doh!

I think it's already too late.

Colorado going to escape this with an ugly ugly win. Like 14-6 or 6-0. Lol This is hard to watch.

Joe Burrow 5 years 275m with 219m guaranteed.

Yes they do, I wouldn't have mentioned it if they didn't.

Someone that has ties to the team says the length and amount are ironed out, just working on guaranteed amount

They offered him what they think he's worth and it was turned down. Now the offer is right but the Panthers are balking at the guaranteed amount. He wants #2 in total money and fully guaranteed money if I was betting on it.

We already have good estimates on the contract being 5 years and around 140m.

I got 28.1m per so they can say he's the 2nd highest paid edge in the NFL. What's the hold up on the guaranteed, is his agent trying to get 2nd on both numbers?

There's another way they could do it. Technically Joey Bosa's contract had 102m guaranteed but the fully guaranteed part was only 75m. So could see something similar where the fully guaranteed amount is 65m but the actual guaranteed amount be 90m.

My expected numbers

He's not gonna get 100m guaranteed. More like somewhere between 80-90m, maybe a little less. The deal I put out last night was 5 years 143m with 90m guaranteed

Lots are comparing to recent contracts and you can't do that anymore after Bosa. Watt, Bosa (both), Garrett, Parsons are all gonna be making 34-38m in a 1-2 years. 29.5-30m is gonna be what that second tier of pass rushers are going to make now that Bosa has reset the market for edge players. Burns is clearly in that 2nd group.

Oh no the Panthers initial offer was little over 23m aav on a 5 year deal. Think 5 years 115m with 60m guaranteed. That's what he turned down. Reason I went 29.5m is that he was turning down a contract that was 5m off of the current contracts before Bosa. He's not gonna go any lower than 5m under Bosa. He wants to be 2nd and by a margin.

Let's him and his agent say he's the 2nd highest paid edge player with the third most guaranteed of edge players. Could be off on the second part, but I think that's right.

The streak we had up here in Northern Illinois where we hit 115 heat index 3 days in a row with two days at 100 degrees was murder. No central air in the houses up here because it's not usually needed. Ong was it miserable

He doesn't anymore really. He did his first season in the league but not really anymore.

The first one of the season where he sacked Tom Brady and the Panthers won 21-3. That one.

21 - 3 vs Tampa earlier in the year. Burns had 1 sack and 2 tfl in the game.

Does burns deserve more than Payne and Simmons? 22.5 and 23.5m respectively

I said when we talked the other day that. it's because of the one year or two years depending on how you judge high level pass rushing. He also has a different job, he plays strong side and is depended on to normally set and hold the edge more than rushing. He got higher stats last year because of Watt missing time and moving over. Burns has 4 years of production and 3 years of high level pass rushing.

Joey got 102m guaranteed on a 27aav years ago. Watt got 80m guaranteed on 28m aav. Ignore Crosby and Highsmith taking less than they are worth. Ignore Garret, his contract is old at this point.

Highsmith cheated himself out of millions and we've had this discussion already. Completely different situations. Yeesh Doesn't matter if the fans don't like it, the above is how the NFL works.

An NFL agent's words and not mine. "If bosa is worth 30m than Burns should get 25-27m". Bosa was worth 34m, that means Burns is worth 29-31m. The above is how the NFL actually works.