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what would be the point of saying you're going to do this right now without actually doing it? not saying it's 100% garbage, but this kind of thing is what you have to do if you're trying to prevent a leapfrog trade in a year where moving around the first round shouldn't be all that expensive.

less of a want and more of an expectation, honestly. hell, the browns might even want Darnold as a temporary starter if Watson faces supplemental discipline from the league or isn't reinstated. stranger things have happened. both teams don't want to pay these guys.

they're clearing the deck for salary because the draft interest in a QB is smoke and with a LT that can play at 6, our team looks competitive on paper minus a QB that we trade to get. We want someone to leapfrog us for Willis so we can get our pick of tackles at 6. Mayfield?

this is how you turn a nothing event into people talking about jackson state on television and giving the program more exposure for future recruits who are going to be like, "damn, deion is going to fight that hard for me when its my time." and secure a few extra talents by manipulating the media with his reputation. the real story is that there were that many teams that actually showed up to his three ring circus despite having no obvious NFL talent.

now that we are keeping derrick brown for sure, davis would be a bit overkill at the position. i think the idea was to pair brown with someone who can play the three technique like matt ioannidis has who can rush the passer and can get thin enough to take advantage of other teams needing extra help on brown. think some version of star and kk short with brown playing star. for all the edge pressure we got last season with burns, haynes, and reddick we didn't get much from the tackle beside brown. davis is probably going to play over the ball a bit like brown.

I don't know if we're disagreeing to be honest. the question is always going to be how much transfers of that talent and if that talent can be applied. but in terms of raw clay, he's in rare air. the arm strength and the speed combination he has just doesn't appear a lot inside the same body. they're unicorns. they're tangible measures of abilities that are correlative to success, but they aren't success. his raw clay value is what has him in the conversation at all.

both of those guys had amazing arms, it's true. some of the best arm talent ever, but neither had game impacting speed. they were nimble especially for their time, but they were no randall cunningham. he's the first that I remember that could legitimately hurt you both ways. malik willis has the potential to be one of those handful of guys like steve young, cam newton, lamar jackson, kyler murray that can for periods of time can feel unstoppable if they get the defense off balance and the play calls are right. it remains to be seen if he has the ability to hurt you with his arm but the velocity says there's a chance. the feet certainly say there's a chance on the ground. he's a lottery ticket. in five years he will either be considered a bust or be one of the NFL's most dangerous weapons. there's not a lot in between.

there's just not that many examples. vick is probably the closest we've seen that could do both of those things but vick was left handed and he had very little touch. sincerely, if malik willis plays a snap next season he's going to be the fastest QB to do so. who else has had the skillset?

you just posted a video of a player who moves like ben roethlisberger next season.

willis can probably run a 4.4 and throws 75 mph. even if he was brain dead you could teach that to be something, but he also scored a 32 on the wonderlic.

it would be such a panthers move to not draft what will become one of the fastest quarterbacks in league history who throws rockets for a guy with tiny hands that played five years of college football to become anything better than average and will be 24 to start the season. here's a funny stat for you... pickett is 13th all time in snaps taken in college football history. here are the other quarterbacks in the top 15: timmy chang, case keenum, dan lefevour, landry jones, luke falk, brad smith, graham harrell, colt mccoy, and our boy kenny. luke mccown, sam ehlinger, and kevin kolb round out the list of players that have taken 2,000 snaps or more.

the panthers chased the hottest girl in school around for 2 years and ended up going to the prom alone. there was no team more loyal to their interest in watson than this team and he still wanted no part of it. not only that, but his final 2 destinations are division rivals. this should kill the "tepper gets what he wants" narrative for good. it should also kill the "rhule is a great recruiter" narrative as well. this group planted their flag on his front lawn when every other team watched cautiously. the good thing for fans is that this deal would have been a disaster. giving up 6th overall, former top 10 pick horn, former 1st round pick burns, and two more first round picks likely in the 5th to 15th range with as swiss cheese as our roster would be without all that is a stone cold dumb idea for any single player who is at BEST on the fence about coming here and has HIGHLY questionable leadership and character concerns. It borders on nonsensical. you can't cheat the rebuild and you can't finish the rebuild without finding the quarterback and you're not going to find him in someone else's garbage can.

This is franchise suicide. If they gave up HALF this much for a player in his situation it would raise my eyebrow. Are they serious? Are we seriously entertaining this? Let them hold him another inactive season and see how that changes his price. My goodness we are bidding against ourselves.

I think by virtue of missing an entire season and the potential existing for a lengthy suspension when he is reinstated (amid the chatter about Ridley's ridiculous full season suspension, this could be a bigger deal for the NFL to "prove it" than previously considered) his value has cratered. As teams that are competitive start to fill their QB needs and the buyers list gets slimmer, not even Watson taking over his old job in Houston seems tenable anymore with the excitement they have for Davis Mills. GB is out. Seattle is rebuilding. Broncos are out. Miami is out. Where is the interest that would create a Wilson-like return? Do we do something with Houston that looks like CMC and our 2023 1st? Perhaps. But the talk of multiple first round picks, etc. died on the day the decision was made to punt on trading him last season when he could have served his suspension and been ready to go to start this year. Now, trading for him is a 2 year commitment in a league with no memory for a player who hasn't played a snap for ages. All of this before we even talk about the moral and ethical responses around the league and in the fanbase. Can he just show up on Day 1 and take a locker room back? How is he going to be received by his peers? I still think the biggest mistake the Texans made was not trading him last season. Now, everyone has eyes for finding their Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, Mac Jones, etc. and doing a 2-year turnaround with a franchise guy. Not waiting a full year for a starter and having to insert him midseason (or later) basically promising a rough adjustment for a player who will then have not taken a snap in 2 years. At this stage, taking on Watson is more of a rebuild move than drafting a QB at 6 with how the league has moved towards Day 1 starters with expectations right away.

the good news or bad news if you're a fan of willis is that his stock has probably risen enough to put him on detroit's radar. it's starting to become a narrative year after year that the guys who win the combine and convince organizations that they're natural leaders rise up the board really quickly. willis has aced the interviews and his wonderlic was fantastic. i think he'll be gone by 6 because few of the guys projected to go ahead of him have had explosive improvements the tea leaves seem to be pointing towards pickett, but there's a few reasons i don't think we go that route. if we're truly going in the direction of being a down hill running team, we need a qb that can add to that attack. desmond ridder knocked it out of the park. he's a 4 year starter that is still about 2 years younger than pickett and his efficiency was fantastic. he's a true quarterback. his numbers weren't highly attached to his running ability and that matters. if anything, he was probably too conservative with his legs as a senior trying to prove he could stay in the pocket. he's a big kid and he's a winner. and for those that it matters to, he has 10 inch hands. the book on him prior to the combine was that he was good at most things but not great at many, but the 40 might have changed some minds. he takes his time with reads and will probably need to be introduced to the NFL in parts and pieces, but he will move the ball. he'll be very dangerous in pulling the ball out and flipping it over the middle.