raleigh-panther

Ok, I'll do it glad to beat my former garner pal (Bleys). Hope it's a standard and not IDP etc MSG me

Stupid Tied of stupid football players He could marry her..worked for Ray Rice

I just want a Win..... no injuries ...Cam to have the game of his life.

This is all so painful. After 18 years of dealing with Collins, Steve B, Siefert's two experiments (Lewis and Weinke), then Jake's rise and fall, then the likes of Vinnie, Brian St. Pierre, Moore, Clausen, I think when Cam was drafted our hopes were very high. We all knew he was raw. He had the look of the winner. He had 'swag'. He gave us what so many other teams wanted, that 'francise guy' with the million dollar smile. He could do anything, he could take that team on his shoulders and make them better. He was 'Superman'. These were our hopes, if we are all honest about it. To see him take the beating he takes with an offense he can't run, I'm not sure anyone can run, is very frustrating to all Carolina fans. If we still had Matt Moore, it would be easy to say, 'hey we have Moore what do you expect'; but that's not the case. We see what is our franchise QB getting killed every week and it has to be somebody's fault that our view of our franchise QB is not happening. What I see in Cam now, shadow of who he was over the past two years, ask yourselves what has changed. The answer is there, I think. As for me, I love Cam. I love his potential. I want his swag back. I want our francise QB back. I want him to be better and different than fill in the blank team's QB. Every week, probably by my own doing, I feel pretty let down. I suspect its the same for many.

What gives you the right to call anyone's opinion 'dumb'? Please explain that. The NFL is a business as your buddy says 'simple and plain'. Its how I feel. If you don't like it, don't read it. When you cough up $4200+ a year, vs. sitting home on your comfortable sofa, you might feel the same way. PSL's make many things possible for sorry ass teams. Turning them in, with people not buying them, stops it. If you think JR is not attuned to the bottom line, you are the one with the 'dumb' opinion.

Until the owner gets tired of being a laughing stock of a franchise and sees empty seats, beer not being sold, money not being made, none of this will change. With each passing game, it is absolutely obvious this team needs to be blown up. It is obvious that our 'core' players are also questionable. The reality of the Panthers are there are probably 5 players that other top quality teams would be interested in and I dobut when the coaching staff is blown up that many of those will be picked up either. The Panthers are the KMart of the NFL...the original blue light special and until they decide to step up in class the fans will get what we have always got. As a PSL holder, I'm sick of. Sick enough to not complain about it anymore. Sick enough to see what they do this offseason and if it is not a whole sale blow-up and start over similar to what is done in KC, I am truly done throwing $4200 a year on tickets away.

Seems to me coaches come in two types: Innovators and Game Managers Regardless of the type, the coach must win. We all know who the innovators are and we all know who the game managers are. The question becomes, even if Rivera by some act of God or other influences, is better than 8-8, does the organization invest yet another year in him? Has he reached his ceiling? Perhaps Gettleman has seen enough to believe, what he sees is all he is going to get, combine that with a 77 year old Owner and I would say its probably going to be Lovie Smith time in Carolina...no chances will be taken on a coach who can't get there or who hasn't been there in the first place. I just do not see Rivera as even a decent game manager, his decisions cost his team victories whether it is in strategic decisions before the game, adjustments during the game or personnel decisions and groupings. If Ron wants to keep his job, he better win the next 3 games at least, and then have at least one marquee win against a 5 star team...NE comes to mind on Monday night, at home, national audience.

Hail and farewell Jon and thank you for your time with the Panthers. Zod, thank you for the insight.

I have not given up and yes, I will enjoy the show and that's I can do. L I just don't have expectations that the makeup of this team can be something they have shown themselves to not be. Transformation takes more than drafting two DTs. In the NFL, there are clutch teams who consistently ****** victory from the jaws of defeat and then there are the teams that consistently ****** defeat from the jaws of victory. The Panthers have proven themselves to be the latter...and over a period of years.

The Panthers are a team emblamatic and symptomatic of 'lost opportunity.' They are the 'poster children' for the phrase and have been for 5 years. The Panthers yesterday had a huge opportunity. Its gone. They had the crowd behind them. Its gone. Everyone in the stands knew with that fumble that was the end, just like with Olsen dropping those passes. There is not one single player, offensively or defensively, or Coach, that when the game is on the line to score or to stop the other team from scoring at the end of the game who steps up....not one. No excuses or reasons here, its fact. We all know it. The makeup of this team and this coaching staff is not 'clutch'. When it matters, they don't. It's as simple as that and I would suggest that after this year, a lot of players and coaches need to be gone. As for me, given the cost, time and expense, this is in high likelihood my last year of PSLs. I'm going to try and enjoy the day, let the millionaires get paid win or lose, and stop drinking the kool aid of 'next year. '

I don't know about Rivera. Newton, IMHO is a fabulous athlete learning to be a QB at this level. Again, not trying to belittle him but there were two games clearly in his hands to win and he lost them. This is the year he must make clutch plays. As for Colin and Russell there are not two more complete teams in the NFL than Seattle and San Francisco; but, even with those two, when they needed to make plays they made them. As for RG III, I don't take him seriously, sorry, with NFL Sunday Ticket I would catch some of his games. Some of it was luck, some strength of schedule and some of it people not having enough tape on him at the NFL level. He did not make smart plays with his body which does not speak to his longevity in the league. I like Newton, a lot but I don't know how he will do. That's up to him. As for the commentators with Newton, maybe they think Newton loves himself too much for them to love him. At the end of the day, it does not matter if he wins.

Cam + Luke = Bright future for the Panthers