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I mean if the Panthers are drafting in the top 3 next year then its a lock they are taking a QB, because that would mean Bryce isn't the guy. No team that has the one of the worst records two years in a row keeps their QB after that

what stats? i said “i’d say”. even during Cams MVP season you had several posters here say they don’t trust him to keep it going or that his showboating was gonna doom him in the playoffs. There are just a lot of negative Panthers fans in existence

Some of the huddlers here will only be happy with Patrick Mahomes as our QB. They would legit complain if we had Josh Allen and pine for an upgrade. They won't admit it but they know who they are Listen, we've been a franchise for almost 30 years, and not once did most Panther fans like the quarterback we have. Cam reached I'd say an 80% approval rate in 2015, but it was back to being in the 50's following the SB. "We will never win anything with Cam as our QB" was a strong narrative on here after the SB.

That is not what they said at all. They said he had the two worst starting WR's in all of football and the 3 worst interior guards/center in all of football and its impossible to evaluate. They could count on two hands how many crossing routes the WR's ran, which is ridiculous. "There's a narrative that he's done, he's a bust, but this situation was truly terrible, and just going from awful to average supporting cast/coaching we'll see a true evaluation this year"

The guy has an adonis body and works incredibly hard. And has the humble personality to match. I hope he is the WR we've been looking for, if he starts showing out in preseason im RUNNING to get a jersey, first one since McCaffrey

Chicago already passed on Stroud and drafted a QB a year later. They have just as much cause to take the blame for getting it wrong as we do

He strikes me as a lackadaisical type that doesn't really care about the game or putting in the work but has a lot of effortless talent so he has been able to skate on by Chicago always blows their offensive picks. Its an epidemic. Wouldn't surprise me if Rome busts too

I'm all for removing as much human ref element as possible. NFL isn't so bad, but some NBA and MLB refs/umps go out of their way to be egotistical and "i'm better than you, look at what I can do" like a macho corrupt cop in the south

That said, it would be nice to have a thread about OTA's that don't turn into Bryce bashing by the same 4 posters that have to be heard in every thread, even if its not about Bryce. It's just annoying and this thread is not the place.

Panther fans have zero patience. Imagine being a Hornets fan and never winning a playoff series in 20+ years since their freakin team moved from the city to New Orleans of all places.

What on earth are you talking about. Only Mahomes can not have everything great around him and succeed. Do you think Josh Allen would have succeeded with that supporting cast last year with the Panthers? They were so far behind all the good teams at WR, TE, RB, and OL. Burrow needs Chase and Higgins. Herbert still hasn't succeeded despite way better OL and WR play than the Panthers. Literally every team ever, besides Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees and Mahomes needs players around him to succeed. Are you holding out hope we get that caliber of QB? It's not like they grow on trees.

Defense is fine. Evero being back is the most important thing for the defense. He will have them playing solid and the drop off from Burns to Clowney is negligible (if not and improvement, becuase Burns was lost on run support). Horn if he plays is way better than what we had last season and I do think they'll still bring in Gilmore or a vet once we get closer to week 1. Team's win total focuses solely on Bryce and putting up points and Legette, Johnson and Mingo improving. I wonder if Canales will get Bryce out of the pocket and roll him out more where Bryce is much better. Reich and Brown seemed hell bent in making Bryce learn from the pocket where he wasn't comfortable. Also more Bryce runs/scrambles to keep the defense honest.

I put 50 down on 20/1 odds to win the division on draftkings. I thought those odds were ridiculous considering how weak the division is. Falcons suck. Bucs and Saints have bad coaching and are mediocre. Multiple times there have been worst-to-first champions of the NFCS.

agreed, which is why if Bryce gets his poo together the division is for the taking. Even with Bryce sucking we were in every NFC South game last year yep, a tortured longtime Hornets and Panthers fan

Falcons suck. They are about to mega bust. Kirk Cousins is a fake stats guy, when have you ever been scared of a Kirk Cousins team

No Thursday games is fantastic. Injuries go way up, games are closer because of lack of time.. its a huge blessing

That's got to be the easiest first 10 games in history. The Bengals are the only good team Saints, Bucs and Falcons are overrated and very beatable Too bad we likely won't capitalize.

Interesting, quite a few posters here parrot constantly that "Bryce didn't make a single NFL throw this past season", yet he sure did bullet a lot of passes in tight windows. If you watch that whole clip, its easy to see how bad the receivers were last year. And his intermediate throws don't look any worse than Stroud, he just has footwork problems to address

Because it worked for him at every level until this past season. And if he doesn’t he knows he’s reached the end of his career (as a starter at least)

Nobody still really knows about his future, the NFL is so unpredictable. There's a chance Bryce comes out and has fixed a lot of his mechanics and zips the ball at high accuracy from 10-20 yards. There's a chance he doesn't and he's not the answer. We'll know by October.

Robert Hunt was considered the 2nd best guard in football last year, and Lewis in the 30's. Carolina's guards were both in the 65-75th range, which is hilarious becuase there are 64 starting spots

Can you imagine Rhule saying any of that lol

I will say this about XL. He looks the part more than Mingo or TMJ ever did. More fluid than Funchess. Little less fluid than rookie Kelvin Benjamin, but probably more top end speed

NFL players don't care about playoffs when joining a team. It's 90% most money, 10% best fit/playing time

One thing XL has going for him is he has a superstar name. Legette is such a badass last name. Reminds me of Legate Lanius from Fallout New Vegas, one of the best games ever made