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I think multiple things can be true. 1. Panthers need to move on from Bryce, who isn't good enough. 2. Bryce will almost assuredly go somewhere else and be way better, we will get dragged through the media, but that's just the way things are. 3. The Panthers will draft a QB who will be pretty bad to average, and we will repeat the process all over again and look for another QB in 4 years. This is just who we are as a franchise. This is why you build for defense not offense, and hope you get lucky with a Jake or Cam type that can give you just enough on offense

The secondary has been awesome through both games. And that's with a laughably bad pass rush

Purdy is better than Bryce. I think if you swap Daniel Jones and Bryce Young the Colts are still 2-0 and Panthers are still 0-2 though. Either way, there are only 6-8 teams happy with their QB play and we aren't one of them. We aren't alone. And it's not going to change next year if we draft a new QB, it's very rare to get a reliable, above average franchise QB nowadays. And even with Cam, we got 3 good years out of 8 with him. Same with Jake. 2003, 2005, 2008. We are definitely a "have not" franchise

Stroud just isn't good and hasn't been for a while. Only in the first rounds of playoffs lol There's a quarterback epidemic going around, only a few are consistently playing well week to week and the next chunk beyond Allen/Lamar is very hit and miss..and that includes Mahomes the last few years

There's not a single rookie in this draft that's going to make us win more than 3 games next year. If you want to start winning, going to have to look for a vet.

All these QB's suck and if we draft and start one next year prepare for another 2-15 season The only one that has looked ok is the Oklahoma QB Mateer

If they come out and struggle getting out of the huddle and snap the ball at 1 or 0 most times again, I am completely done with Canales, he doesn't have what it takes to be a head coach. fuging fix it.

App St.'s coaching must have been that bad, because Joey looks so much better at Tennessee. Had the pleasure of doing a private dinner for him and his offensive lineman last year, great guy

I think most of the board wanted to draft Keon or Ladd, and Frazier in the 2nd round with our picks

Whiffing on (big money) FA signings can be catastrophic, so I'd say it counts. Remember Matt Kalil?

Not getting the defensive stud we so sorely need, there’s some good ones in this upcoming draft. Jayden Daniels is an extreme outlier with the way QBs are busting left and right lately. I have no faith in this FO drafting a QB.

Watch this then watch the Falcons game in week 18 back to back. Bryce has reverted to being scared in the pocket, hopping too much, rushing, not trusting anyone, and sailing throws. Doesn't make any sense. What happened this offseason where he lost all that work he made last season

Yeah, I'd rather trade for Dak. Does anyone seriously think any of those guys will be a franchise QB for the Panthers. There's like a 10% chance. At best it'd be a repeat of the Bridgewater or the Darnold Panthers and then we will look to change the QB position again in 4 years. Only one of those guys will be a franchise QB and everyone knows Tepper won't luck out and select the right one

The team sucks right now because Fitterrer had the worst run of any NFL GM since 2000. Dan at least identified Coker, Hunt and Lewis, all three are solid starters. Jury is still out on FA class, you can't tell anything off a terrible week 1 game (just like last year). XL has about 3 games to turn it around or he will be replaced, but he was exceptionally lazy on Sunday which is inexcusable, as was Princely. But I'm not making excuses for Dan, its been as bad since he took over. Team is unprepared and Wallace and Scott were so bad they brought the entire defense down, and that's on Dan for not trying to upgrade those positions. I mean Peppers was a FA until yesterday and he's better than Scott in every single metric. We had the money. It tells me they weren't really caring about winning this season, just like the Hornets when they do this same bullshit

We'll probably draft a Drake Maye/JJ McCarthy type who will be about the same as Panthers Sam Darnold for the entirety of their rookie contract, lead us nowhere and then give up and do the same thing again in 4 years

I predict the Panthers surprise the Cardinals and win, like last year and the year Cam just signed. Then the huddle will be unsufferable with threads from both sides about how Bryce still sucks despite his performance or the Panthers are finally back, and then they lose next week to the Falcons in embarrassing fashion

The Bryce threads are exhausting. And its the same posters every single thread. Combine it all into one please

I mean let’s not act like Lawrence was any good, he was pretty bad also. Jags just got a few turnovers off a bad Panthers O and a 71 yard run and that was the difference. At least we aren’t paying Bryce a ton of money like the Jags are

Yes. QBs are less than a coin flip now. Absolutely no way of knowing if they are going to be good or not. Fitterer ruined the decade for this team

As I said earlier, they'd only be happy with Burrow, Mahomes, Allen, Daniels or Jackson. These same posters would be railing on everyone else. Stroud has been missing receivers left and right. Trevor Lawrence missed the same throws Bryce did in the same game and frankly had terrible footwork still which is inexcusable for a 5th year QB. Bryce was terrible and deserves criticism, no doubt. But only a few teams have franchise QB's and the rest need absolute perfect coaching and offensive talent to succeed. We don't have one, and bringing in Sam Howell isn't going to change a damn thing

I mean did you see Russell Wilson play Sunday? He was leagues worse than Bryce Young. Honestly some of you are just so stuck in the mud that you think the Panthers are the only team with subpar QB play. Caleb Williams would have had the exact same performance against Jacksonville if he was our QB. Bringing in some jackoff like Aiden OConnell or Sam Howell isn't scoring any more points.

No? Do you think they would be any better than Bryce Young? And Purdy and Brady are the 1 in 100 examples. There are 99 Will Greers for every Purdy.

Wallace single handedly tanked the defense yesterday. When one guy is that out of position, it wrecks the whole defense. Carolina's defense wasn't actually that bad otherwise, the secondary played well. It was the worst performance I've ever seen and his PFF grade backs it up. He cannot play next week, or it will be much of the same. If they trot him out there again, it shows they have no fuging clue what they are doing. If he is on the field Cardinals first series, place all your money on the Cardinals

QB's 3-7 round are far far worse return than any other pick. The Saints just wasted one on Shough, when it's so clearly obvious they are going to take one in the first next year. We did the same twice, with stupid Corral and that WV quarterback I already forgot. Also, you act like the Panthers didn't just bring in Teddy Bridgewater, then got rid of him.... Sam Darnold, then got rid of him.... Baker Mayfield, then got rid of him.... Daniel Jones would have been the same freaking story here. The Colts are a way better franchise with a way better roster and actual stability at GM and quality scouting. This isn't apples to apple comparison. The Panthers are just a poverty franchise with poor scouting, coaching and direction and I'm willing to bet Bryce on the Colts would have slammed the Dolphins yesterday too

A mid round flyer qb is a wasted pick 99 out of every 100 picks. It’s the single worst investment in a draft pick. Case in point, people wanted to take Hooker in the 3rd round and now we have him on our PS