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We could try a different approach on D--if you can get penetration up the middle, it makes your edge rushers better---a few of these 3 Techs are aggressive pass rushers--Not saying that is what I would do, but drafting a DE (3 tech) who can get after the passer, or a Sam OLB who can move inside and create chaos could be better than drafting another Burns. If we traded back and took Walker and a stud DT--we could be much more damaging than if we took an OLB who only rushes the QB---I am not sure how it might work... It is kinda like the fact that we need a #1 WR. However, in my view, if you drafted a WR who can get open, runs good routes and has good hands and a TE who can do the same, are we not better off (in this system)? I dunno--just spitballing, but there are different ways to address a problem--gonna be a fun offseason.

Of course I am not an insider or expert, but he small for an ILB--I think his body is going to continue getting injured because he is worn out--even a team-friendly deal would not be worth the risk, imo. I met his after otas (he was late--Washington was on quarter system) and he looked like a strong safety--I am guessing 5'11" and 220 then. I think he is under 230 now. I am not sure his body is not already telling him to retire....Just my guess--I see your point.

I think we are seeing one of the Panthers' greatest coaching seasons in our 30 year history. Bryce was horrible--how he is approaching average. The defense was not really addressed in the offseason and we lost Burns, Gross Matos, Shaq Thompson, Derrick Brown, and Action Jackson from last year. On offense, Canales benched Bryce after 2 games. most of us thought he was done. Teams offered conditional seventh rounders and the brain trust on the Huddle was shouting, "Do IT!!!" Canales stayed with Bryce. On offense, we lost our starting center early, our #1 WR, our #2 WR (AT), our #3 WR (Mingo), and a former second rounder (TMJ). For much of the year, we have had XL, Coker, and Moore at WR. This team was getting blown out early on--with wins against powerhouses Vegas, the NY Giants--then November happened. A win vs the Saints, and heart-breaking losses vs. Tampa, Kansas City, and Philly--all playoff teams (probably). This team has gone from a joke to being competitive. A few players away from being relevant. I cannot think of a better coaching job--except maybe 2003. And this team is likely to win 4-5 games. Think about it. A rookie head coach with a positive attitude has done this in about 15 games. I am sold.

Sack totals are overrated--I look for tackles and a decent number of sacks--but crazy sack numbers are misleading. You can have a game where you get 4 sacks because the backup OT in front of you turned his ankle and you are now facing a freshman a year out of high school. Look at the per game stats and look for consistency---tackles 4-7 per game, sacks (half the teams they played or more), etc.

There are some good DTs (NT, 3 tech in this draft). In my mocks, I take 2. For that reason, I go edge in round 1. WR you ask? I look for those who run good routes and catch the ball cleanly. If you had to choose right now, who would you keep on the roster--XL or Coker? One was a first rounder, the other an UDFA. So don't tell me there are no Wideouts to be found. I can list 12 that would improve us...but you asked about DT--any of these in round 2 would be great---Grant (mich) Nolen (Ole Miss) Harmon (Ore), Williams (Ohio St), Walker (KY), Sanders (SC). Sleeper? Collins (Tex). I love the DTs in this draft. Edge? ( I am discarding the Sam LB--holds the edge and plays run to pass--capable of moving down into the 3 tech--I think we have that on the roster in Wonnum, Johnson, Barno, etc. I am looking for either a true pass rusher or a hybrid who can cover and rush from multiple positions--like Parsons from dallas) After Carter, I really like jalen Walker from Georgia.I like Mike Green (Marshall) in round 2 or Jack Sawyer (Ohio State). Sawyer is an excellent all around edge player with a great motor and bats down a lot of passes. Finally, in round 2, I might take BC's Donnovan Ezeiruaku--he had 80 tackles at Boston College and 16.5 sacks. who does that? Princely Umanmelien (sp) from Ole Miss is highly rated, but I am not that high on him personally because I think he is a one-trick pony--sack artist. In the third round, We could add another South Carolina edge--Kyle Kennard who is learning the position with success (11.5 sacks, 3 FF) but he is weak vs the run, imo. In the third I'd rather have Bradyn Swinson from LSU who had over 50 tackles, 8.5 sacks. If we do not get Carter, I would trade back and grab Mike Green or Jalen Walker and grab a DT or two in round 2.

I agree--as the OL goes, he goes--but if he trends north, that is a good thing. We bought the stock at its highest possible price--it crashed--and now it is eeking back up--but nowhere near the price we paid--I look at Bryce as 1/3 of the equation--never an all or nothing proposal. We are like Alaskans seeing the sunlight for the first time in months. Bryce has some value and is improving--that is good. However, this is not about Bryce--it is about getting a QB under center who can win a super bowl. Bryce has a shot to win the job next year and I feel much better now than I did in September, but decisions based on emotion bring pink slips. Draft a qb with good skills in the middle rounds this year, and if we do not have a consistent, winning qb by the end of the 2025 season, we go back into round 1 and get one.

I think some think pro bowler to fufure hall of famer, Consistent winner--but that is pretty rare--Cam was neither, but most Huddlers would take him back in a minute if in his prime. I mean, some would consider Murray with the Cardinals a franchise qb based on his contract--

If this season--with Cousins sucking in Atlanta, Darnold and Sam doing well in their playoff races, Rodgers sucking in NY---does not teach us anything about the role of coaching (system, play calling), weaponry (WRs, RBs, and TEs) and protection (OL, good defense) in QB play, nothing will.

But...but...but...he su...sucks? Good sign, Nas. I would love to see us end the season on a positive note.

Happy to see Bryce get better--until we have a top 10 QB, however, you keep shopping. He has until we find someone better to prove himself. If he lessens the need, he extends his longevity. That is how it is for all NFL players.

Huddle smack down. Nice work.

the thing that might be somewhat overlooked here is this: Canales may indeed be the QB whisperer. I don't see Bryce improving without him. That is pretty important in the long term.

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We need LBs--build the roster from the bottom up. On offense, we have Coker who has been huge...if you fill your weaknesse without having to use free agent $$$ or draft picks--win win.

I agree with that--and a good game manager understands that it is his job to get the ball to better athletes at the right time. I would even say, "All great QBs are game managers first." What then, is the special sauce that separates game manager from elite QB? OC/play calling, weaponry, protection. The General, the ammo, and the armor.

And we could use a stud TE to go with Sanders and Tremble. That would be an awesome TE room.

Looking at this from the Canales viewpoint: He inherited Bryce. No emotional commitment to him. He did not pound the table for Bryce in meetings before the draft in 2023. He was hired to turn him around, so to speak, and he has done that. Bryce could be tapping on his ceiling, and Canales will reach a point when he wants more.

And there have been teams with average QBs and loaded rosters-mainly teams with great defenses--like the 85 Bears, for extreme example, that have won it all with a game manager--but it is much better to have an elite QB.... This draft will have some decent qbs who could become a good NFL starting QB--I think of Cousins being taken with RGIII in the same draft. I think of Brady being drafted when the Pats had Bledsoe---I hope we go after a guy like Howard from Ohio State, Rourke from Indiana, or (and people might laugh at this, but he has the skills) Beck from Georgia. Yeah, Bryce is a game manager--that is all he was at Bama.

Cards Offense TOTAL Cards 11, Panthers 31 Passing Cards 21, Panthers 29 Rushing Cards 7, Panthers 27 Scoring Cards 15, Panthers 28 Scoring Red Zone Cards 20, Panthers 16 (Get some, red birds!!!) Overall, if I am the Cards game planning vs the Panthers, I am going to run the ball 65% of the time.

The Cards Defense Stats defense ranked 30th in third down conversions, but 10th in red zone defense. Other stats-- defense overall Cards 16, Panthers 31 Passing Cards 13, Panthers 11 (Get some, Red birds!!) Rushing Cards 19, Panthers 32 Scoring Cards 10, Panthers 32

He sure has

First team that does not have to have a QB....

NE will take Hunter if they pick top 3.

I have sawyer and Jalen Walker in my last mock--traded back to 28, took Sawyer, then grabbed walker with the second round--Walker is a Micah parsons to me....Id take Marshall's Mike Green too.