MHS831

In my very limited knowledge of our needs at WR, I think we will go after a type. I have an idea that we have tall WRs now (Thielen , Mingo, and TMJ are all 6-2) I think we need some Waddle and Hill types. If we are getting the ball out in 2.7 seconds, we need some options that can break one from anywhere on the field. Having said that, I think this draft has some interesting choices in the third and possibly the fourth rounds at WR. I expect 10-12 WRs to go in rounds 1 and 2, and there is still quality that should be there. I like Corley, a YAC guy, and I like Malik Washington. There are a few more. Of course, neither is a "#1 WR" but these guys can impact games in a different way than what we have on the roster. I honestly believe that we could not have done a worse job of building a WR room for Bryce young than we did last year. Throw in injuries to our top 3 guards and starting TE---yikes.

Some of you are pessimists, like the ugly girls sitting in chairs along the wall at the high school dance. We can create cap room to compete with any contract if we want the WR bad enough. I think Hurney, at the end, had the same complex, so he overpaid to keep our own players off a 2-14 team. I would say, however, Cincinnati wants to re-sign him. Does he want to stay is Chase's shadow, or go somewhere that will target him more often? Watch Green Bay and Houston--they will go after him too.

To be nearer to his home (although Cincinnati is not too far from his Oak Ridge Tennessee roots), but as an athlete, I would do it because I want to be a bigger part of the offense. I am not sure a 6-4 WR is in the cards, but I need to know more about the offense before making any stupid statements like Electric Horse does. (Just kidding EH)

I do want Corley. As the second WR added. I like Ladd too. Also like Virginia's Washington--a sleeper with a lot of YAC ability.

I have seen him in round 1 in several mocks.

They kind of guy Canales can mold. Jalen Hurts II?

Yeah, the more I saw him at the SR Bowl the more I thought "Fool's gold". More of the same. I am not sure I see things as Canales, but I am thinking we need YAC guys--and good route runners who are disciplined, not just better athletes--Ladd?

I agree. He is a difference maker and even if LB is not the biggest need, he would make the biggest impact long term. People need to watch this guy on tape--

Moton?

I think you are right--I think the Huddle is a place for overreaction--we all do it--but I have never seen more of that than this year, understandably. But sometimes the problem is not personnel, but scheme. Sometimes it is playcalling that puts you in a bad situation. Mental mistakes due to overcoaching that leads to confusion. Any number of things. This offseason we MUST address WR. That is a given. We must address Offensive Line depth, whether that be finding players to make our starters reserves of finding reserves for our starters. Ekwonu, Christensen, Bozeman, Corbett, and Moton. That was pretty good in 2022. I think (not really talked about) that we need CB depth. I think a new system might help our TE room (Ricci, Hurst, Tremble) so I am not sure that I am going to invest in a new TE this season. I see the argument for getting a TE, but in my big pic, I want to see what Ricci and Tremble can become and I want to see Hurst have a year that he is capable of providing. Edge depends on burns. If he stays, and we have Haynes, Barno, Leota, YGM, and Johnson--there is some young talent to develop. Remember, Hardy, Charles Johnson, even Rucker were not studs until around year 3. Basically, I prioritize it this way: 1. Alpha WR 2. CB (after oft injured Horn and Jackson, what do we have? Jackson is in a contract year and we will need to make a decision on Horn soon. Time to get a CB who can play nickel. 3. Offensive Line depth (C/G is ideal, but C then G then OT, imo.) Reason? With BC, Corbett coming back, G is average. Mays might develop into a solid backup. Tackle? If you include BC, we have 3 potential starters there. Bozeman did not have a good year, and he can play G. A center if Bozeman struggles is not a bad idea. 4. WR again Of course we need help in other areas, but it is not as dire as we think. On defense, we get Shaq back. We need Luvu to be re-signed. We need a CB and maybe a pure NT? Who knows. lotta ways it could go.....

He He He. Y'all are funny.

I see a person who will be a great coach in the NFL for a long time. Man crushing right now. I am excited-never crazy about Fox--grew to like him better, Was not ever a rivera fan, wanted to believe Rhule but he is a BS artist, and I did not get a chance to like Frank, but I was expecting more. I would run through a wall for this guy--a really soft wall with large holes in it, but still.

USA Today: After acquiring the No. 1 overall pick of the 2023 draft this past spring, the Panthers sent a massive contingent to attend the pro days for each of the top quarterback prospects. Tepper and his wife Nicole, the chief administrative officer of the team, were part of the group. HEADLINE OF ARTICLE Reporter: David Tepper 'heavily influenced' Panthers' selection of Bryce Young Nicole has a role in the front office, regardless of her qualifications. Her husband "heavily influenced" the Young pick. Do you think Nicole, who visited the pro days, did not share her opinion with her husband? And do you think it is unreasonable to assume her opinion influenced or empowered him in any way? Ahead of Bryce's pro day (Nah, Nicole did not have an opinion): Nah, you may be right. Nicole is not involved. She probably did not share her opinion with her husband. How stupid of me.

The problem is nobody really knows the problem. Question: Is Purdy better than Young? Not the team, stats, etc. As a player, how is he better than Young in terms of skills, etc. If there is a difference, it is this: You see the best of Purdy--the supported player with limited talent, a great defense, good OL, excellent weapons. You see the worst of Young. No consistent support, no oline, few weapons. If you put Purdy on the Panther roster in 2023, wonder how he does? If you put Young on the niners roster in 2023, I wonder if he plays much better?

The premise of your argument is that you are privy to inside information and I am not. And if you are a concrete operational thinker, you miss dry humor and ambiguous suppositions--I said, she may have had a voice in it. It was really a subtle joke about how shotty the front office is, but now I am defending myself against someone who seems to get angry when he thinks he has spotted a comment by someone else that does not comport with his opinion. No, I do not think she made the decision, but the part where I said "She may have had a voice in it" seems to have been overlooked by you--maybe the rage, the eyes tearing up or the frothing at the mouth--I don't know. She is a part of the ownership team. Take a deep breath, regroup, and read all passages to the end instead of until you see red flags of disagreement.

Seriously- Young's season is historically bad according to what ? The results? His stats? Not even close. I have posted this several times. What would you want a team to do if their rookie QB completed 38% of his passes and threw 6 TDs and 24 interceptions? What if that QB threw a pick every 9 passes? A #1 overall pick, mind you, who went to a bad situation. You would have cut him. This team surrounded him with a great OL and weapons to throw to. This guy went on to win 4 Super Bowls. twice Super Bowl MVP. Three pro bowls, and a league MVP award. The people who wanted him run out of town on a rail after his rookie year, kinda shut up after that. And he wears a yellow jacket.

Right on, brother. I put off mock drafting as long as I could because it makes the off season longer. I broke down before Thanksgiving and dove into the Mock Draft Simulator 24 pool. Now I have to tread water for 5 months until free agency and the draft. I used to go to OTAs every year--not camp--too hot and too many people. I think I will go this year, just to see these players up close again.

Here is what we know: How Bryce Young looks when playing quarterback in the NFL under some of the worst conditions possible.

I felt that we were soft at CB and vulnerable up the middle. Derrick Brown played every down and the defense was on the field most of the game, but if he needs rest or gets injured, yikes. I honestly do not know how this defense was so good-Starting LB lost for the season (Shaq), Starting CB (Horn) gone most of the season. That is nearly 20% of the starting D. Chinn disappeared.

It was a joke--and a damn good one.

I wanted Stroud early on last year, but I had my doubts about him. When Drew Brees came into the league, they said his arm was weak. Matt Ryan's arm was not strong. My reservations were formed when Frank and David and Scott felt the need to promote his personality and maturity. Like they were selling the pick. I have a feeling that Nicole may have made the pick---at least had a voice in it.

I will say this--the world we live in is so polarized people want to make instant decisions and then they fix in on their beliefs to such a degree, they would rather Bryce suck than be proven wrong. I am not optimistic, but I have seen players come around after 1 year at QB. This coach could be the difference. Bryce has an adequate arm that is accurate when he has time to step into throws. He is known to be smart. He had a lot of voices in his ear, his OL sucked with 40% on IR most of the season, his WR room changed and had issues getting open, the play calling was predictable and vanilla, and his starting TE underperformed and went to IR. What support system did he have going for him? Baker Mayfield was a short first round pick who struggled and, if you ask me, was a bust when he got here. Canales, using the resources around him (better than Bryce's right now) devised a system where he would be successful, and he was. John Elway completed 47.5% of his passes during his rookie season, and threw twice as many picks as he did TDs (7). Wonder what Denver fans were saying? Tua in Miami in year 1 completed 64% of his passes and had more than twice as many TDs than Picks. They wanted him gone. In 2022, however, he threw 25 TDs and only 8 interceptions. They thought first overall pick Terry Bradshaw was a bust in Pittsburgh after his rookie season behind a bad offense. He completed 38.1% of his passes and threw 6 TDs against 24 interceptions. 11% of his passing attempts were picked off---1 out of every 9. What a bum. A bum that wears a yellow jacket and has a few rings. Just give the kid a chance. The rookie campaign was not good, but every aspect of his supporting cast LET HIM DOWN. He is 22 years old. When terrorists flew planes in the twin towers, he was being conceived. When I was 22 I was laughing at fart jokes and still trying to decide on a major. Nobody here has ever had to perform under that kind of pressure. Give Bryce a year under Canales. If he is no better, he will be benched and we will go back into the QB market.

In fairness to him, what has the Swiss Army ever won?

YAC guys with the ability to go deep--slants will be big, screens, outs. go routes (when the presnap read is man with no S help) I also think Bryce will develop the back shoulder throw--not sure I saw that much from him this year.

If I am Canales, the first thing I do is make Evero my assistant head coach.