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Most likely. However, when you have this much position versatility, I could see an innovative GM/coach going with 8 players and using the PS to house 2. Not many teams have 2 swing OTs (one plays G and possibly C), and Mays who has played both G spots and they are grooming him to be C. ON PAPER, it is a unique situation. Take any of the starting 5 out, and it is a safe bet that Yosh or BC is the backup. Not sure about C. I guess it depends on this--is BC a "swing G"? I think he would be better at RG than Mays. I also think (opinion) that Mays should focus on C. They guy has played all over the LOS at 2 colleges and again here--IMO, he would be better if he focused on the one position. The point was this (to me): Do we have the versatility to keep 8 on the 53? I think we could. I mean, most teams carry but dress as few as seven for game day. If we kept 8, most games one would be inactive. However, this could also suggest that the Panthers are going to draft a Center. In 2012, the Pittsburgh Steelers carried 7 on their 53 man roster.

We sure seem to have a long history of acquiring Gamecocks.

i like him/

If we did, I would have a few on the PS. The chart provided makes me feel better because it demonstrates how we could sustain a few injuries and still have a quality OL. If a G goes out, we have BC to step in. A T? We now have Nijman. If Nijman goes down, we can move BC over and replace him with Mays. Heck, if we lost a T and G, we'd be better off than our starting OL last year. But yeah, we tend to get injured a lot up front, so I would definitely have some depth on the PS. Heck, I could even see a scenario wherein a G goes down and the move Ickey inside, replacing him with Nijman and BC. We have a lot of options.

That would freak some people out.

C bothered me, in that nobody on this roster has experience as a C in games. I guess we will see how serious he is about Corbett and Mays--I am not sold on it, but this was based on what we know they have stated or past history

He had his ups and downs, but he could easily be kept on the PS without fear of being purged.

Thanks to BC's versatility and the addition of Nijman as a swing OT, the costs we have spent on the OL may save us a roster spot. First, Brady Christensen has played OT and OG for Carolina, and he has always been a notch below average, according to PFF. Last season, they talked about giving him looks at center, but his injury prevented that from happening. Most of his experience here is at G, but he also has swing OT abilities. Nijman is an excellent swing OT, an important addition that gives us Ekwonu insurance and depth at both T spots. If you consider Cade May has been mentioned as the new backup Center behind Corbett, then he also has the ability to play 3 positions. Here is how you have solid depth three deep and you do so with better and fewer players. In the past, the OL has been a madhouse when a lineman goes down--we had 2. It seems we had someone new in the game every week. The OL needs to know the system and they need to communicate. If I were coach, I would carry 8 total OL on the 53-man roster, saving at least one roster spot, and I would feel confident that I had depth on three levels. Here is what it would look like: (I would keep Zavala on the PS to begin the season--he needs it) Green indicates a free agent addition

Didn't we pay Cam Irving something like this? I am still reading the thread, but I thought Brady was going to be the swing T---it seems now that BC could be the third OG and the fourth OT.

INTERRUPTION: Anybody heard from Mr Scot?

I did a mock, but I do not get the Chop love--looking at his numbers. I need to look more into it. I see him as a dropper, based on what I know right now. Braswell is a "DAWG" and I bet Morgan likes him. Here is the mock I did just to see what it would look like:

I think a great WR or TE is worth more than two pretty good WRs or TEs. There is only one ball.

If you were Dan Morgan, that is what he would WANT you to believe! I am pretty sure I blew his cover and his mind!!! No, you are probably right. I was just joking at my expense.

Yeah, I just wanted to get some open minded discussion going. Too often we make an assumption early and never consider all options. How many drafts have you walked away from thinking, "Well I never saw that coming" Good stuff here.

Yeah? Well your name makes it difficult to trust you when talking about Morgan, unless that is who you really are! I know he said that, but how can you say that before free agency ends? Do you trust everything GMs say during this time of year? I tend to trust Morgan, but when the dust settles, he could see trading up as the best option. I hope he does not-and I have a feeling Braswell will be our guy-I also have a feeling that Chop Robinson may fall into the second round.

I agree, but only on the surface. You have to look at the draft. The reality could force their hand, which was my point. Not that they SHOULD do this, but I said the COULD do this: If we bring in another WR it could mean that we could wait until the third round and grab another WR, pretty much giving us our WR corps. They will realize that a WR with second round talent will be there at 65. So the Panthers enter the draft basically desperately needing an elite edge. They have average at the Jack LB--Barno and Chaisson. Drafting a third OLB in that range in round 2 could mean that you add a "B-" player and it forces you to cut a "C-" player. However, there are three premier edge rushers who could be there around pick 15. 7. Dallas Turner - Alabama (very unlikely) 14. Jared Verse - Florida State 16. Laiatu Latu UCLA If you wait until pick 32, the only hope is for Chop Robinson, and he is two notches below the top three 3-4 edge Jack LBs. He is rated #30, and he, in 10 games, was less than half as productive as Verse and Latu. Robinson is likely to be gone as well without a trade up. So there is not Jack OLB Edge rusher to take at 32 or 39. On the top 100 players ranking list I am using, the next Jack OLB is Braswell (Alabama) at #47. However, the reviews on him are not overwhelmingly positive for that position. It seems he might make a better SOLB. He lacks the bend, etc. High motor and loves the game, but I question how effective he will be. So I would not reach for him with the 39th pick. Trade down? maybe an option, but you are still getting a player who seems to be much less of a natural fit thant Verse or Latu. If you wait until the next group of players become values, then pick 65 is a good spot. Take a look at the picks for 250 lb edge rushers in the 60-95 range. That is where you take an edge Jack OLB if you don't trade up in this draft for an elite edge Jack OLB. This from Tankathon is what I was using. If we do not sign an elite Edge in free agency, we probably are not drafting an elite edge without trading up. If we don't trade up, Personally, I really like Trice and I think Booker is a good fit. I might take Braswell if we trade down because I love his motor. I think that Verse and Latu are in the Burns conversation, while these others are backups on other teams. We already have Barno and Chaisson, fwiw. You can look at it like this--the Burns trade provided the #39 we needed to take an elite Edge rusher with our first pick.

If we do not sign Clowney, it could mean that we trade both seconds or a second and third to get into the first round for one. I hope they do not do that--but they may feel they need a young stud pass rusher.

All I am going to say: When a unique talent is playing for his third team before he turns 25, there is more to it than meets the eye. I am somewhat disappointed because I am an optimist, like the people in Squid Game.

Irony. Chase Young will now chase Young against the Panthers.

Of course there are ways to overcome this, but when you look at QB salaries, Bryce cannot expect us to be hiring $20m guards and Tackles to keep him from soiling his pants. If I am GM, I am going to take a look at a formula...How do we have 6 offensive players on rookie deals at any given time? 1. I would not have a RB on a second contract. Full Stop. 2. I would invest in OTs and Center. Only 1 OT (like now) on a second contract. With that formula, you would change out an OT after 8 to 10 years. A center should be a QB's sidekick, like Goose and Maverick. I would have TEs on rookie deals most of the time, and I would have 1 WR on a big deal (my #1). INVEST IN SCOUTING instead of Free Agency. 3. If there is a strong draft at a position and you have a player who is beyond his peak or prime, don't fall in love with him---trade him. 4. If the QB is not elite by the time he has played his fourth or fifth year, cut him loose. Too many teams overpay for a QB that is never taking them to the promise land. Cousins is a good example. That leg humping munchkin in Arizona.

AR just didn't have the experience for me to like him, but we would have Moore here and our first rounder. I had the same concerns about injuries. Unfair to AR, I got Willis vibes from him. Having said that, I am 100% convinced that the supporting cast is everything to the success of a QB and we had no supporting cast. With a new system, a decent OL coach, some new blood at WR, we are going to be much improved. Not sure about the defense--improving the offense might expose some weaknesses on D. We could not have had worse ownership, front office decisions, coaching, and talent than we had in 2023.

Here is my resume: 1. I was upset when the Panthers signed USFL reserve QB from New Orleans--he was playing behind 2 QBs named Billy Joe and then Aaron Brooks. 2. I loved the Kerry Collins selection 3. I liked the Chris Wienke selection 4. I wanted Andrew Luck and was mad at Jerry Richardson for the "pie chart" press conference that made him look like an "owner-centered" owner just before Andrew Luck had to decide whether or not he was returning to Stanford. He decided to return, leaving us with Cam Newton. A player I thought was fake and transferred because he was not better than The Golden Calf of Bristol. 5. I thought Jimmy Clausen in round 2 was a steal. 6. I wanted Stroud but I bought into the negative rumors that swirled and i believed the positives about Bryce, I believe the more intelligent an athlete you are, the more you put yourself into favorable situations. I am not giving up on Bryce---I have seen QBs turn it around many times before. I have seen them bust much more often.

I had the same thought. This gives them three years to adjust the roster and make it better fit the system.

Yes, but the draft has to have the answer at QB---early indications are that the QB group next season could be the worst since the Kenny Pickett parade rode through.

yes. Lotta variables. The system needs to be a big part. If the play is to have the ball out in 2.7 seconds, you should not need a $100m OL