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About Bell and Chandler--Rivera was high on them, but we really were broke and had no money to address the pricey OT position. I think they squirmed through a season of watching those 2 get humiliated every week and know that the have to do something this year. Oher is phase 1 of a process. He has experience and they feel they can protect Cam with him, and I am sure Matsko had a loud voice in that process. Nobody knows Bell and Oher better than our OL coach. Many teams do not like their LT--about as many who do not like their QB. They are hard to find. Over the past 2 seasons, 10 OTs were drafted before the 20th pick in each draft. 2 were successful starters in 2014. So, don't think the answer is in the draft. They might develop into good players, but they need a year or two. I do not see how Gettlemen ignores OT in the draft. However, you have to protect Cam to win.

I agree with you, but I don't think he had a choice. If I am not mistaken, it was Rivera that had faith in Bell and his left hand. Gettlemen may have erred by trusting his coach's estimation of Bell. Even if not, we were still in cap hell. I think Gettlemen's goal was to get totally out of cap hell before Cam's rookie contract expired. It was never to be a 1-year process, especially when you have 3-4 year bad contracts to wade through. Offensive Tackle is an expensive position to fix--like QB. When we went with Bell, we were basically like the Browns having to go with Hoyer. Hope he doesn't hurt you while you are building. This is the year we address OT. Last year, the draft did not present a T he liked--he admitted that. Collins (now cut) was the best free agent. He did not have options or money. Oher is an upgrade. If Matsko can work his magic, he could do the job.

Maybe we should notice that Gettlemen is spending $$ on Known quantities. 10 re-signed players, Ted Ginn, and now Oher, a player our OL coach knew. He is not grasping at straws, chasing big names of the past, etc.

Ignoring cap issues, are we? Tackle is an expensive position to address properly.

Probably has already been said, but Crabtree has a rep for having a negative attitude. I am liking the rookie pool right now.

We had no money, so you have to make the best of nothing. I am sure he would rather have brought in a stud LT, but he couldn't say that in the press. They knew what they had and hoped they would make the most of it. Note that Gettlemen says that Oher "CAN" not "WILL". Look for an OT in the draft.

We all know that Oher is probably not intelligent. How he is taught is perhaps more important than with other players. For example, some players need repetition, some don't respond to yelling or negative comments, etc. I think there is a very good reason for his decline, and it isn't physical, except for the injury in Tennessee. Trust DG.

Dave finds gems in the dumpster better than anyone. This is his job and my hobby. I am getting on board and getting excited about this.

"You can't coach 6-5, 240." - Dave Gettleman DGB 's probation officer will be sad to hear that.

You hit on the benefit for the Rams--cap space. That is why I think they won this deal. I also like Foles better, but I see both sides of that coin.

Tennessee has to be sitting there at #2 waiting for trade offers. Mariota is going #2 overall--we just don't know what team

All I can figure is if they want to turn him into an H-back or something.

Weird. More of a 3-4 guy in my mind. Better than Addison?

I would feel less secure if Hurney were the GM. I am betting that we draft a DE and a WR in the first 2 rounds.

You have to look at the big picture. The draft is loaded at WR, RB, CB (not elite, but solid players). The draft is not so loaded at TE, LT (most players have an asterisk), QB, LB, and S. Why spend in areas where we can find talent in the draft if we have a limited amount of $$? Our money should be spent where we can't find good free agents. Just my opinion. I think Jaelen Strong, for example, is better than either of the players you mention and i think he would be cheaper.

I don't think people on this thread were doing anything more than reacting and discussing a rumor. It is what people do on discussion boards. That does not make anyone stupid.

I hear Gettlemen likes that DE from UCLA named Owambagjde Owkeokonozwa (spelling could be off a bit--not googling it). If we do not land a DE in free agency, it Gman could pull the trigger in the first or second rounds again.

Bersin has good hands and catches over the middle. Well said.

I would guess that it has something to do with the NFL year beginning tomorrow. Not sure.

Forwarding this to you--sent to Mr Scot a minute ago-- I think Voth said "next year" which means the 2015 NFL season (?) He did not mention this (2014) year, at least, I don't think so. (I assume the comp picks for 2014 will be determined next month). If we lost Ginn to free agency during the 2014 NFL year and then got him back that same year, then it seems that the acquisition would nullify the loss of a free agent entering the 2015 season.

OK, you need to go slower with me. I think Voth said "next year" which means the 2015 NFL season. He did not mention this (2014) year, at least, I don't think so. If we lost Ginn to free agency during the 2014 NFL year and then got him back that same year, then it seems that the acquisition would nullify the loss of a free agent entering the 2015 season. I need graphs and charts to comprehend this!!

OUCH! or lips. His face just stops at his teeth.

QUESTION: Do signing these players at the end of the 2014 NFL year hurt our chances to get comp picks next month?

Beat me to it. Right outside the North entrance to to Bank of America Stadium.

That was very good news. I know that all DL need the help, but Hardy had a stellar cast around him (and he was part of a stellar cast around them). I just like Morgan on our budget. I think he could be a 10-sack guy here if he was a 6-7 sack guy there. I have seen enough to believe that a strong front 7 is how you stay in games in the NFL. Can we get over Hardy? I think so. Hopefully, as you say, we already have.