MHS831

But everyone, I have a theory. Gather round. We basically had 3 NTs here last year, and we were not sure about Roy, who has since proven himself. I think Kerr does not fit the mold, because we want a 3T or two. We are going to add one--which is why Obada became less valuable. I stake my reputation as a person who is never wrong on this.

I lied about the 40-53 Huddlers so that people would think I am in the know like Verge. I checked my inbox. crickets.

Me too--fully expected us to do that. These 2 guys can back up the entire OL--and either would probably be an upgrade at LG.

I blocked that A hole months ago.

Since the start of Tampering period, I have had 40-73 Huddlers PM me, all asking me for the MHS831, my real name actually, perspective. So here it is, if bullet form, although I am not a violent man: The Panthers wanted these guys because they locked em down very early in the process. The are both versatile, able to play multiple positions. Both hustle, getting down field on screens or draw plays. They both have weaknesses and injury histories that are not considered major or career-threatening. So do we know what we have? 2 centers? A guard and tackle? A center and a tackle? 2 Guards? A center and a guard? The answer (right now) is "yes." I am sure that Rhule and Fits are aware of their shortcomings and their risks, but they didn't just grab them for a year, they signed them to multiple year deals. They wanted these 2 players and targeted them for a reason. You have to think their versatility is key. Perhaps that will suffice for now.

about the draft being full of OL---it sure is, but rookies starting on the OL in the NFL are a bit rare. Defenses love it.

And Scott was not the worst--if we grab a T in the second and he needs a half season, we are probably OK. Basically, we signed a Larsen who can compete at LG and a T that can play behind both ends of the LOS--the 19th and 70th picks in their respective drafts.

You always bring sensibility to the Huddle. Until I see the big picture, I am not totally in or out. These 2 contracts can be paid for by trading Teddy

That is kind of how i feel. I am waiting for them to make sense. I get it if we waited until next week and looked at these guys, but during the tampering period (I know one was released, I think (but the longer you wait, the price goes down. They must have a certain "type" they are looking for. I firmly believe that the system must be a good fit, and I recall a player like Evan Mathis getting released here and becoming a pro bowler in Philly--so let's see/

https://www.ganggreennation.com/2020/12/4/22149126/scouting-jets-offensive-lineman-pat-elflein Good run blocker, screen pass guy, terrible pass blocker vs bull rush.

I am not extremely happy with this---I wanted our own G Miller or Austin Blythe (Rams). I can say that we keep getting former Viking OL and they are known for sucking there. Maybe he is better at C than G-I dunno. I am happy that we are addressing the OL.

I did not realize he played Nickel--he is a tremendous athlete. I know when asked, Rhule (and this does not matter much at all except for the fact that Hartsfield can play every position in the secondary) mentioned his as one of the Safeties---so I did not think of him that way. Interesting point. Thanks,

I want Elder back, and I think we will re-sign Miller. I am not sure Armah comes back. He was a good special teamer, below average FB, in my opinion. Lotta teams don't use them any more.

Not atop our list of priorities, it would seem

Two guards---and what do I hope we get out of this free agency? 2 guards (and a CB).

Like you need to do that.

I will say Cameron Sutton, CB (formerly Pittsburgh). Because that is what I want to happen.

Zeitler (G, Giants) signed with the Ravens for about $7m+ per year. He was cut last week, fwiw, so he has signed. Last year, Miller played for $4m. I bet he sits and we could get him for half that this season. Same for some other free agents. I would spend on a CB and lock him into a long term deal. I want Cameron Sutton, but that is just me.

The market is worse than you think. Last week, I used a chart in this column comparing the average cap space available this year entering free agency per team ($13.06 million) to last year’s cap space per team ($43.33 million). But I should have used an asterisk. That doesn’t include the rookie pool that teams have to budget for, which averages between $7 million and $10 million per team. So you see Kansas City firing both starting tackles and think, “They’re $12 million under the cap—they can buy one this week in a depressed market.” Budgeting for the rookie pool, though, would leave KC somewhere near $5 million under the cap in reality. But overall, teams last year entered the league year with about $1.3 billion to spend on free agents and rookies; this year the number is about $420 million. So it’s no exaggeration to think you’ll see one-third of the early action as you did last year. Wow. Here is a tip for the Panthers, maybe: There’s never been so many tempting rushers in a free-agency class. Aldon Smith could have multiple double-digit-sack seasons left after rising in Dallas last year; Bud Dupree was on his way to a career year last year in Pittsburgh before getting hurt; Carl Lawson is terminally underrated; Melvin Ingram should be due for a rebound; and Haason Reddick, Matthew Judon and Trey Hendrickson all are intriguing. A month from now, two or three of those players will be unsigned and have massive chips on their shoulder, almost certain to be smart one-year buys while they re-establish a market for 2022. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/15/drew-brees-retires-nfl-free-agency-fmia-peter-king/ Gonna be fun watching this thing play out, but if we don't start signing a few players until next week to get some bargains, I will get the strategy.

Last year, I think, he could have earned about $7m with incentives. He did not make them. I would kinda love to see Cam regain some form of his old self because I pull for him, but that seems unlikely. And if he does, there will be Camolites on here saying, "We should have re-signed him!! What were we thinking? Well, he has had 1 good season (2017) since the Super Bowl (50). He wanted in the $30-35m range. Yeah, that would have been smart.

Over the next few days we will see what people think of Trubiski. I have no idea where he might land-or what he will get-but that is a good barometer. I have mixed feelings about the run on QBs in the draft. First, yes we are going to have to move up (But we beat the WTFs!) and there will be a lot of competition for the pick, so we have to pay top asking price.

So you are basing an argument on some improbable vision of the future that is not at all based on recent history (the Patriots missed the playoffs for the first time in 20 years)? Nice.

Personally, I understand the concerns about Jones, but statistically, he has not disappointed and he is supposedly a fast processor and has a quick release. His average per attempt is higher than some of the players you/we covet more. She is not saying he sucks do not even think about it, she is saying (if I understand correctly) that she has concerns. I am not as concerned, but I am not saying any QB is going to be trash and I am not crowning any player. Did Jones miss open WRs? Yes. Does Fields have question marks? Lance? Heck, even Watson has had 2 ACL surgeries and could have another--TD did. If so, and we have given up 3 firsts and 2 star players, where are we going to be? I am saying that nobody knows how good these guys are going to be--the success rate in the NFL for first rounders is about 50%--a coin toss. Yet we have huddlers who already know the answer and attack any and all who make a positive comment about a player they do not want. How stupid. The more informed Huddlers simply state why they like a player or that they do not like a player because...and they give concrete reasons. Again, I love the drama---I love discussing it and I actually ask for concrete reasons to oppose my opinions because I am not an expert. I want to hear alternative points. Verge has reasons, shared videos, etc. I am still not sold, but at least someone provided concrete reasons. Some points were good, and some lead me to more questions. And then we have people on here whose usernames are cleverly phrased sex positions and they just bash others without facts, using profanity and proclaiming to know it all. Folks, a sign of maturity and intellect is to consider every issue from every perspective before making up your mind. Finger-pointing temper tantrums are for toddlers--I do not care about a toddler's position on the Panthers.

doesn't the league approve these? Yikes if this is something they accept.

There is so much data here, I do not know were to begin my apology after succumbing to the insurmountable surge of logic that has just overwhelmed me. Even your username suggests insecure early adolescent.