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Agreed. And one thing we all could probably agree on: He will be better here. How much? Remains to be seen, but if we sent NYJ 3 firsts and Wilson busted, I would then be pissed.

What if we trade back (now that we can) and add a second rounder in the draft? It would seem that we not only are locked into a first round QB (it was going to be Mac Jones, prolly) and we can get a decent CB or OL, add a second rounder and draft a T/CB, and add---wait for it---Mond or Mills. By developing a young QB while giving Darnold a chance AND building around him, you are not strapped into taking the #5 QB in the draft in the top 10, or you do not have to roll three first rounders out there to move up. I like the move--lets see how this plays out.

A second THIS year would not be that alarming. Consider the second NEXT year as interest so that we can have 3 picks on days 1 and 2-,maybe more. Next year? In today's value: A third and a fifth. Folks, we are talking about a former top 3 pick who was sent to QB HELL. He is 23.8 years old. Damn nice gamble, if you ask me. Worst case scenario? We have a decent backup QB for 2 years. Best case scenario? We realize just how toxic NYJ culture was---have you heard Robbie talk about it?

Of course they are, if you call them atrocious before anyone plays a down. Look, this aint fantasy football--this about team concept and fit. Maybe he busts here--but you know, maybe Wilson would have too. Maybe Fields will be terrible. Maybe Lance is really Mark Sanchez in disguise.

https://youtu.be/hXxE8KKCSc8

Fitterer on draft picks s

By the way, read the comments from other teams' fans on PFT. Many think we stole him.

That will be up to Darnold and Brady and Rhule. Be interesting to hear how this decision came to be. I still think we are now addressing this from the bottom up. If we upgraded Teddy, good for now--all we can do at the moment, and a 24 year old kid might be salvageable, when we both know Teddy is not.

About 50% of QBs taken in Round 1 are starting on a second contract. Many become Walmart employees. So there is risk, and we selected a top 4 QB who was thrown into one of the worst situations any rookie has ever inherited, and he struggled. Shocked? And I honestly think they were trying to throw games, evidenced with the Williams firing mid season--so who knows how many of the play calls were BS---I dunno--but giving away a 2022 second rounder is a very small price to pay vs. the 3 third rounders we might pay for a bust.

I see this as on piece of the puzzle. We are going to bring in someone else, maybe a rookie, and Darnold could lost the job if he sucks. If I thought Darnold was the answer, I would be concerned, but he is part of the solution.

5-0 and we paid him $60m for 3 years---he looked good to someone.

no he didn't what?

Darnold has lower body mechanics issues. When you scramble, they are magnified. As the Jets were losing, the QB tends to press and try to make things happen. Playing from behind with no defense is much different than playing with a lead or having a strong defense. Now lets work on the mechanics and see what we have. Lets keep him in the game and not send him out to make miracles happen. I am going out on a limb here and I am going to suggest that we watched some film on him. I am reaching here, but I think they like the arm and his overall chances for turning it around. If they are wrong, it is not like they invested $40m guaranteed on him, like they did Teddy---who, by the way, was 5-0 with the Saints in 2019 and looked good....

a 2022 second has third round trade value in 2021. So the fourth is actually a fifth. Add em up--we saved our picks this year, to build around the qb. We tossed away a 3 and a 5 and a 6. Boo hoo. Some of you crack babies wanted to send 3 first rounders and 2 elite players to Houston for guy who really craves deep tissue pecker rubs.

His grammar should give you some indication of what you are dealing with.

These are the same people thinking we should trade 3 firsts to move up with Miami (#3) earlier. This gets the talent and avoids the risk. We need to realize that the supporting cast is everything. You think they might have talked to Anderson and Elfien? And those of you bitching about the second rounder--have you seen our second rounder history? Now grab Mills, Brady, you QB whisperer you.

But now we can trade back and get a 2nd rounder in 2021 or 2022. If so, this cost us a fourth and a comp pick.

OK, you Trevor Lawrence on a budget shoppers--Darnold is NOT the answer-he is a cheap and smart project. You take him, work on his mechanics for a year. If he progresses, you have a 24-25 year old QB and you lock him into a long-term deal. If you don't, you cut him loose. Now, do not be surprised to see Mond or Mills or even Trask drafted by the Panthers--I know "They suck!" But you are building and addressing the position. ANSWER THIS: How many of your dream QBs would have succeeded in NY? I am going to wait over here---OK I am back--give me the names. Now to trade Teddy and get a pick back. We will probably trade #8 back--some team will want a player there I hope we grab Mills and start building around the QB spot to see what we found in the dumpster. He could have used another year, and if he came out in 2022 we might be talking about him.

You can't hide talent.

I know--Pitts is a TE plus, and he could help any team improve. With Slater seeming to emerge, I am not so sure about OT. Pitts is that guy nobody can defend. He could be the first Non QB mentioned. Of course, Chase is who Burrows supposedly wants.

but they use numbers with decimals.

or Pitts or chase

I have a secret plan. Buhawwahhbuuhaawwa. 1. Trade for Darnold (Teddy and a 4th). Work on his mechanics and give him a shot at a starting gig. He should be better with better QB coaching and a better OL and weapons. (Robby and Elfien may have inside info). Darnold in a contract year will be interested in improvement. 2. Draft Mond or Mills. Develop them as well. If he good as Darnold by the end of 2, cut him loose. So yes, start a qb competition. 3. If Fields is there, you probably take him, but he is going to need development as well. Keep Teddy until Fields is ready.

I guess diplomacy and the art of compromise proved to be ineffective.