MHS831

I like the topic Basbear-good thread. SF was supposed to be going after Jones, but they are putting Lance and Fields through their own QB drills. Due Dilligence or have they changed their minds and have it narrowed down to 2? Denver will move up. How far? Dunno, but watch them--I am guessing Miami or Atlanta....

Absolutely. However, he had one and drove him into the ground--going for the immediate reward at the expense of long term success.

I imagine there is some communication between the two front offices considering the Rivera Hurney connection---or they are not communicating at all and we are the last team they'd deal with.

If the logjam at the bottom breaks--Sf takes Jones, Atlanta goes Sewell or pitts etc, there could be offers like this. RR is NOTHING without a QB to save his ass. He would be an asterisk in most programs. He would be the guy who parachutes before the enemy starts firing. He would be the kid at the ice cream truck who falls down, bloodies his knee, drops is quarters, and still wants ice cream. I have no idea where this is going now.

One local media guy had them trading to 9 for lance--if Lance is on the board at 8...

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/football-team/michael-lombardi-thinks-washington-will-make-major-move-trey-lance

I have been working and going through Huddle down time withdrawals. So before I look at the rest of the posts, I think it was PFT that reported that Washington may give up their entire draft for Lance. If so, it could mean that they trade with the Panthers.

nice.

Now we probably won't get a sixth for him.

That is what they are paid to do and that is our system of justice--and it is good for the most part. When you drink and drive, every other minor infraction becomes more vulnerable-jaywalkers, for example, are more vulnerable. I had a guy on his phone walk right out in front of my car as I approached campus at UNC--he never looked up--middle of the street--I was traveling 45 or so, and it might have been a 35 zone. Had I hit him, his lawyer would have argued that I was speeding, and it caused the accident. I would have argued that he was jaywalking and walked out into a street designed to transport cars, and the speed had nothing to do with the fact that he entered my path while distracted. Had I been drinking, however, it changes everything. You cant say I was speeding and drunk and he used poor judgement.

Is that you, Matt? Enjoy the prom.

forethought. We are going to be offensive--that is a fact.

Ruined this for me. Damn you.

Nah. I think he knows that some people are unteachable. The irony here is palpable.

Sure as hell was not talking about sex here, right? Who is with me? (not bad for one handed typing) MHS out.

Lotta you guys have some pretty quick access to Payton look-a-likes. Probably doesn't mean anything.

Darnold will be one of the many interesting stories at QB in the NFL this year---aside from the 5-7 rookies, Goff, Wentz, Stafford, Tua, etc.

I cannot think of a situation when the incumbent has not bowed out when a team drafts a top 10 talent. Sooner or later, usually sooner--after the first bad game or so---the shiny new QB takes over. I still think this is unlikely--maybe a bluff. If you are the coach, and Darnold throws 3 picks in a game or the team loses 3 games in a row, the pressure is there to pull the cord. That is all it is about--when to pull the cord and make the switch, knowing that you cannot unswitch the switch.... Can you think of a time when a top 10 QB was drafted and the incumbent kept the job for a long period of time? I can't.

I agree with this. I might add a CB and a MLB as well.

It helps the draft position if others think we will take a QB. If you do not want a QB and you can convince teams like Denver or NE that you do, they may move up with the Lions and take a QB, leaving a player like Pitts or Chase sitting there. Still, a Mond or Mills or even a Trask later might make more sense, if you think you can develop them. A first round, top 10 pick QB is going to start--you have not created a competition, you simply turned Darnold into a bridge.

OK, adopting this new first round philosophy, I think it is very likely that we do not need to move up if we are open minded. I am going to create a big board here. Wait one second. 1. Lawrence. QB Jags? 2. Wilson QB Jets? 3. Fields, QB Niners? 4. Lance, QB Trade up with Atlanta? Assume those 4 QBs go before the PANTHERS pick-- 5. Sewell LT Bengals?) 6. Chase WR (dolphins?) 7. Pitts TE (Lions? or do they trade out? I am guessing that if the Niners take Jones, a QB trade up here) It is very likely one of the three in bold above (5-7) will be available. That is the pick, unless we decide to trade down. Here is to hoping SF takes Jones--that would just about guarantee the top OT or an elite weapon. 8. Waddel WR 9. Smith WR 10. Slater OT 11. Surtain CB 12. Darrisaw OT 13. Horn, CB

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