MHS831

There will be an offer since multiple teams are kicking the tires and the reality of the free agent market and draft prospects are dire. Teddy is an experienced, bottom tier starting or elite backup QB. That has value. I see (possibly) the Seahawks and Bears getting into the mix, in addition to the Broncos and Texans make sense. I could also see Bridgewater back in New Orleans with that circus at the QB position. I say Denver, because trading up for the fifth best QB has to be a bummer of a thought to sleep on every night. Dark horse? New England.

I think we have to make up that 2nd rounder for the reasons you provide. But trading Teddy will recoup the 4th and 6th, and if we move back a bit at some point, we could recoup the second. If so, then the Teddy for Darnold swap was good for us because we get rid of a lot of TB's salary AND we still have our 1st rounder that we did not spend on a QB

They are the products of their environments. The were not breast fed.

This is a group of informed posters--nice and refreshing. By piecing together things I have learned from you all over the past few months and watching the available video of these players, I think we have to look at T as a 2 starter process that should be addressed this off season. Moton (according to some of you) wants LT money in the $20-23m range. Not a good look for a RT. 8 years ago that was elite QB money. I think we need to draft a LT in round 1, and a RT later to take over in 2022. There are a lot of young RTs later in this draft and we could be developing one NOW. So when I see RTs in the middle rounds, I start frothing at the mouth like a rabid rabbit. Here are some I really like: 2nd round: Mayfield (some have a first-round grade, but I have him around #40, which is great. Would we draft 2 OTs at 1 and 2 during the same year? Doubtful, but he is a swing T and is very mechanically sound. 3rd round: Carman is interesting because he is a G or RT--which means he could play either...Radunz would be a great developmental RT to draft in round 3 because if our LT every went down, he could switch over without losing too much... 4th/5th round: Spencer Brown from N. Iowa should be there early day 3, and at 6'9" and 320 lbs, he is a bigun. James Hudson (Cincy) and Brady Christensen (BYU) would be nice additions in this range. Not starters for now, but they will be one day. Remember, D'Ante Smith (ECU) was at the SR Bowl with our staff, and this is about where he starts getting love. 6th/7th round: Tommy Doyle (Miami Ohio) is a big swing T who has a nasty demeanor. Former Hockey player. Josh Ball (Marshall) is a former 4-star recruit who signed with Florida State before transferring to Marshall. He has a ton of upside, and he may not be drafted. I think he could start in the NFL in a year or two.

I am guessing a 3TECH since all we have are NTs Remember, they wanted KK to return on a cheap deal

Leatherwood has the longest arms--that is all I have for him, After the top 3--I am not into Cosmi, Leatherwood, or Radunz. I like Jenkins Mayfield, Eichenburg, Walker, and Vera-Tucker as a second OL drafted. I am guessing that Slater is going to be the pick. Good feet, just lacks the punch and run blocking Sewell offers. Still, I will be happy with either

why would anyone be against him? You are right--he has a chance, and with the exception of Mr Pecker massage, all other candidates would too. At least we did not send anyone 3 firsts for a bust.

who do you play for?

Agreed, but the risk was well worth the potential reward. We have seen other players under Gase prosper elsewhere. So there is something more than theory at work--we know Darnold will be better here than in NY--fairly fair statement. How much better? Not sure.

The one thing you cannot deny is the math. Darnold is young (23). The draft picks are not that problematic because the trade saved the Panthers the need to use the #8 overall pick on a QB with no more certainty for success than Darnold has. The #8 pick is worth 1400 points--the others have an adjusted 2021 trade value of about 300 points. So we really did not LOSE draft stock by doing this--we gained it. And once we get something for TB, it will be an even sweeter deal. Now that does not guarantee SD will be good, but there are red flags about Fields, Lance, and Jones as well. Well played, Fitts. And thank you, Pythagoras.

Picking JJ's brain might be time well spent.

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If that is the case, then I draft OT in rounds 1 and 2 this year.

You are all over it. Hudson had some "issue" or something, but I have not heard much else. Christensen has short arms (under 33") fwiw.

Hasnt played in 2 years (basically) but I like him. Beware OTs from the Pac 10, however. It seems that some are horribly overrated. Give me the OL from the Big 10. That is the reason I think Sewell (a good one) and Slater are closer than you think.

adjective placement matters.

Zod is a click bait master or we need our readers.

It really is. We have a set salary cap and a set number of roster spots. So getting a starting QB vs. 3 picks (where only 1 or 2 might be solid roster occupants when the dust settles...) is not a high price.

but what about the salary cap?

The Saleh family needs cable.

I agree. Moton has not signed a long-term contract yet, and his demands could hurt us. Even if we get a T in the first, it would not hurt you to take one in the second if a stud like Jenkins is sitting there--

He is the perfect fit. Would love to see it. I think he will be there--Moore (yes, another WR named Moore) is the other player who could fall and he would be great in the slot...Just can't help but notice we seem to have been looking at safeties but have not really added any--yet--and in this defense, they are important.

I would not be surprised to see us grab a LT and a G / C in rounds 1 and 3. I am not happy about CB, and I keep getting a sneaking suspicion about a WR or S in round 2....

I think we will get most of it back when we ditch the Bridge. Not too worried. They wanted a first, and Fitts could have squeezed them--we seemed to have the leverage, but in the grand scheme of things, we gave up about 230 draft points to get him (if you devalue next year's picks one round). 230 points is nearly the exact value of this year's 3rd rounder. 2021, round 6: 12.6 points 2022, round 2 (if we finish in middle of the pack, #16): 190 points (third round value in 2021) 2022, round 4 (if we finish in middle of the pack, #16): 25.8 points (fifth round value in 2021) So if we get a 3rd rounder in 2021 or a future 2nd for Bridgewater, it balances out. even steven

I came very close to calling him one of the generational talents of this draft (non QB)--along with Sewell, Chase, and Pitts.