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We have added DTs/DEs that can get to the QB and collapse the pocket. for that reason alone, our pass rush should be better. Most QBs nullify a 9 tech by stepping up. Take that away

And you have to think of roster spots--When I was in college the coach said, "This is the depth chart. Look at it closely--some will be happy, some will be upset. Understand that by the end of the season, this will look totally different. So save this until December, and compare it to the depth chart then." So I tend to think of the bottom of the roster that way--does a player show that he is trying to become a starter? I did see it in Johnson a bit and in Hardy a lot. I am not seeing it with these guys. I also consider the fact that Clowney will be gone in 2026 and Wonnum will not be under contract. We have Jones for two years. So if we add an edge in 2025 and again in 2026, we should be fine. That is why part of me wants to take our time and see if anything materializes, but I just don't see it. I have more faith in Barno, fwiw.

This is all I could find---and it is quoting Joe Person as the source. https://sports.yahoo.com/article/georgia-edge-rusher-receiving-major-111524875.html

I keep thinking about Charles Johnson and Greg Hardy--both emerged in year 3. However, they are expendable, and if your line chart is not trending upwards, you are sitting still or falling behind. They have not been that bad when they play, but we need a difference maker.

I would say that the majority of Huddlers do not want Stewart or Williams. Is that a fair statement? We will have better safeties who are dawgs in run support, hopefully better LB play, much better DLinemen, and our CBs are good tacklers. This player needs to be a beast who can get to the QB. Let the other guys play the run--see ball, get ball.

I see our situation this way--we need a guy who can get outside at the 9, pin his ears back, and get to the QB. He should have been working on his hands, his moves, and his strength. At #8, we do not need to be drafting a player based on "athleticism" or "upside" or "ability." That is what college was for. We can't afford to miss. So if we take Williams, they better be right about him. We have Clowney, Wonnum, Jones, Barno, Johnson--but this draft is full of players that can pretty much do the same things--bigger, 4-3 types and, in our case, pass rushers who are under performing. In my view, the players in the first round that might be good fits have baggage (Pearce, Green). For this reason, I am hoping we wait until round 2 to find the "sweet spot" in edge rushers for the Panthers: Princely is my favorite, but I am warming up to J. Stewart.

I agree--I was just afraid of Ball for that reason.

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I am not Verge, but until she chimes in, I would suggest that you watch both Texas games if you are looking for hope--I understand that he was injured some this year. However, if you have a good game twice against one team, it could be that one team did not have an answer for him. It could also mean that Texas saw what you did the first time and could not stop you. ----Not Verge

That is why i LOVE this time of year--trying to predict what teams will do---

Not a popular pick, but I am afraid you could be right.

on another thread in the draft section, I mentioned (today) that FanDuel had the over/under on Sanders between 7.5 and 8.5--they think he is going at #8---I hope so--a trade back would be ideal. I say watch the Colts--they guessed the Giants.

I would stay away from Shedeur Sanders for this reason. I was equally concerned about Lamelo Ball, but he is injured too much for his father to complain.

If the Browns do not take Sanders, I do not think the Giants will. They have Russell and Winston--just does not sound like a team taking a QB at 3--lotta jobs on the line in NY--but I think they like Dart or even another QB more than Sanders-just a hunch, but that is how I feel. If FanDuel has a 7.5/8.5 over under on him, they have to think he will fall and that spot suggests Jets or a trade up---The Jets are taking Fields seriously. Anything could happen, but qbs drafted in the top 10 that were not rated in the top 10 bust for the most part.

yeah, the avatar switching messes me up too.

I think there is a pretty steep dropoff after 8 if Walker is there. I would imagine: Warren, TE Emmenwori, Starks S Barron, Johnson CB Campbell, Banks OT Williams, Stewart Edge (Nooooooo) Golden, McMillan, Egbuka WR That is about it....

In fairness to me, I was telling people NOT to spread these rumors about you. I thought you would thank me. It only makes sense, however, that your extra ammo pack would need a bigger bazooka.

I mention this topic in the new thread I just put in the 2023 Draft section. The Jets would really love Hunter (based on some intense research (web surfing) I did. While I think they take hunter, the local writers seem really focused on the OL

Just a few rumors that could indirectly impact the Panthers--please add to the list, except those that personally attack Jon Snow. He is sensitive about being teased about his man boobs, it would appear, and does not appreciate any online references about them--or his third testicle--which is only an unsubstantiated rumor and should not be repeated by anyone, including the UNC med students doing research about it. Spreading unsubstantiated rumors is classless and should not be permitted in any situation, so under no circumstances should the Huddle engage in any form of rumor mongering, such as spreading that nonsense about Special Juan and the reason he is not allowed within 500 feet of any Chucky Cheese or schools that have monkey bars or swings. Finally, that vicious rumor that I had sex with the Spice Girls at a party in 1998 needs to stop. It implies that all Spice Girls were involved, yet Ginger was not at the party. These kinds of rumors can be damaging. Rumor: McShay just reported in his podcast that the "winds have shifted" about Shedeur Sanders. He referenced back in October when Dad basically said, "If we tell you not to draft him, don't draft him" to Shedeur wearing a Browns hat. Recently, Deion has come out to announce that he is OK with wherever his son goes--while the intentions were good, he is still one-too-many voices in the process. I think it was at the combine when Shedeur responded to a question, "Do you know who my dad is?" while laughing. He was asked about the Raiders during an interview, and Shedeur said, "I ain't going sixth..." He was referencing living with criticism, etc. but continually referencing Dad may not be helping--but this shift in his and his father's approach to the draft suggests that they are not quite as confident, now that teams have signed free agents. McShay suggests that Cam will go #1 to the Titans, but the Browns may not think Sanders (who some have a second round grade on--he has him at #19 overall) is worth the #2 pick, and that might lead to them taking the best player in the draft (Carter, but do not rule out Hunter). Side Rumor: There are rumblings that the Browns could land Cousins from the Falcons, giving them a starting QB and the #2 overall pick. The Giants just signed Russell Wilson and J. Winston. Daboll and Shoen may not be ready to put their jobs on the back of a developmental QB--so they take the best player on their board, Hunter (if the Browns take Carter). New England probably drafts an OT, but they would like to trade back. Some mocks have them taking Jeanty--but I do not see Vrabel going RB with so many needs. Side Rumor: The Jets may want to move up for Hunter (if he is there) and the Pats may want to move back and take a T. So if Hunter is on the board at #4, look for a NY-Boston trade. The Jags do not need a QB, but most mocks have them staying put and taking Mason Graham, DT Michigan. Side Rumor: The smart money has the Jags taking Mason Graham, but some think they are in love with TMac. Others have TMac going to the Seahawks later. The Raiders are supposedly in love with RB Jeanty to go in Pete Carrol's offense. I see that as a likelihood. The Jets seem to like Fields and bringing in Sanders makes little sense, but it could not be ruled out. The drama, however, after the Rodgers experiment, is not ideal. Most NY area experts have the Jets taking Membou OT or Warren TE--always take the top OT over the top TE. The Panthers are likely to have Walker on their board and should be fielding offers. According to McShay, a team still needing a QB would be calling the Panthers to get ahead of the Saints. McShay mentions that the Giants could be in play to move back up to grab Sanders, but I see Indianapolis as a more likely candidate, with Richardson and Daniel Jones as their QBs at the moment. For the Colts to move up to 14 it would not require a huge investment in draft capital. The Colts could send Carolina their first (14) and second (45) to Carolina for their first (8) and a fourth (111) and fifth (140). Side Rumor: According to McShay, the folks at FanDuel give the over and under odds for Sanders being drafted at 7.5 to 8.5. The Panthers pick 8th. What does this mean? First, Jon Snow will have to change his user name and I think Special Juan is required to report his status to us to be on this board. Secondly, it means the Panthers could sit at #8 and take Walker or move back, where players like Warren, TMac, Mykel Williams, or a top S (Starks/Emmanwori), Golden, etc. would be in play. In addition, getting pick #45 would land a player like Princely (Edge).

I see the Patriots taking an OT (probably Membou or Campbell) or Hunter/Carter, depending on who is on the table. Jax, from what I heard a while back, loves TMac, but 5 is rich for him. Graham is most often mocked to Jax at #5, as you say.

Membou has surfaced as the #1 OT, but if they like Campbell....I also think the Ohio State OT (forget name) will go earlier than most think--

this suggests, if DJ is accurate, that if we trade back, the BPA at a need position could be a WR.

I could live with that--or trade back for the S from SCar

I think Membou is that OT, but he is a RT---I think they have Moses there now--not ideal