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And with a late day 3 rookie behind Horn, Jackson, and Hill, we need another veteran.

To be clear, this reporter is representing the DALLAS perspective. This could be an indication that Gilmore is looking at Carolina. I am not sure too many people want to be in Dallas right now--I can't understand why anyone would want to go there. They are working on a few deals, and Jones just made that crazy-ass "all in" press conference that did nothing more than keep his dysfunctional team in the spotlight for reasons other than football.

I think people with extreme level of pessimism are very cynical when someone shares an optimistic view of anything. Instead of trying to break out of it, they try to drag people down into their worlds. Being right becomes more important that the outcome. For example, if someone predicts that a plane would crash and it crashes, they would become euphoric and proud of themselves.

He did in high school

No, he has a long way to go to be that--I think he is probably referring to his ceiling--I think Legette has more room to grow from where he is that those more polished WRs. When you look at his potential, it presents an argument that is not so one sided. Of those three, only Odunze had a higher RAS score 9.92. XL had a 9.90. Malik Nabors had a 9.67. Harrison Jr. did not have one. I am not sure that Legette has not overcome more obstacles to be where he is, and if you consider his adversity, his story might be more incredible, even though he is only a second tier rookie right nowm with Mitchell, Thomas, Pearsall, and maybe McConkey. I am going from memory-but you have to think of things as a kid-when he was 16, his mother died of breast cancer. When he entered S Carolina, his father died. They had some issues and QB problems and the OL was terrible in Columbia---the others you mentioned? None of that family drama, and they played at Washington, Ohio State, and LSU. Huge difference. I am proud of him as a man--when all his chips were on the table--when he had no more chances, he broke through and became a first round draft pick. A school with a losing record, mediocre QB, and bad OL. Mentally, he was struggling through the losses of both parents. Amazing story. Is he as good as those three who played at top universities? Not yet.

Nice contribution. Appreciate it. I have seen him on interviews, and I just like the kid. He breaks so many molds and stereotypes, I doubt trying to put a label on his is going to work. I think he can be special. During his presser he was talking about riding horses and doing wildlife stuff. This came to mind: Lil Nas XL

Totally relaxed. Just not here to get into petty disputes with Captain Hindsight. Start focusing on the Panthers and not the people who post perspectives and you will grasp the purpose of this board. As for my reading comprehension--it didn't take me long to read you.

It is very easy if you isolate on one position and ignore the salary cap and other needs. No NFL roster is without weaknesses or areas they would like to address. This year, we had to address G, G, C, TE, RB, WR, WR, Edge, Edge, DT, DE, ILB, CB, CB, and S. So we may have some bumps in the road at C due to the circumstances--the point here is to suggest that the problems are not that difficult to overcome, and the downside is you get a 7-year veteran OL switching positions. Not saying it is perfect--but I am saying that I may rather have Corbett than a fourth round rookie Center. How was BC's rookie season (3rd rounder?) Ekwonu's rookie season (1st round). Zavala's rookie season (4th round). Nah, give me the 7-year veteran who has spent the offseason learning the nuances of Center. Let me spend my picks and resources on positions where I have no options on my roster.

Related to this, I would like to see us speed up the pace of the offense this year. Folks, I have seen guys switch from G to C midweek in college and they did great. These are pros. Cadence can change from QB to QB, and most of the time, the best QBs alter their cadence--hand clapping does not allow for voice inflections (think Aaron Rodgers) to get the line to jump--yes, you can clap twice, but it is hard to simulate an emphatic slap like a voice command. To me, the biggest challenge is knowing what the D is going to do presnap and adjusting the blocking scheme accordingly. Once you ID the Mike, the OL then knows their scheme responsibilities and how to adjust should the defense disguise a blitz or stunt etc. That is the hard part. Corbett has been beside the center for year and I am sure a lot has rubbed off during that time. In fact, one college we faced had both guards calling schemes and not the center--play side was the hot call and the guard away from play side called the dummy or decoy calls. The center simply identified the Mike. Not sure why they did it--maybe the center was a reserve and unsure.

If you remember stuff like that and attribute it to me, yikes. There has to be a toll free number for you to call. I did not write this article. I shared it. Aside from that, thanks for the acknowledgement. Nobody here is right all the time--the GMs miss most of the time--keeping score is pretty pointless.

I think it was the Vikings when we drafted Jordan Gross that didn't get the card to the stage (they did it differently then) before the clock expired and the Panthers rushed their card to the commissioner ahead of them. I think the Panthers had the 9th overall pick, and they drafted Gross 8th overall. I think that happened to the Vikings again the following year--now, it could have been strategic (knowing they would get their player at a lower salary), but it was odd.

Here it is in table form by round: In this table, we are once again looking for the values closest to 100% (equal value). I have calculated percentage discounts from 40% to 60% in 5% increments. At the bottom, you can see the overall percentages. Here are the closest results: First Round: 60% discount Second: 55% Third: 60% Fourth: 40% Fifth: 10% (not shown) Sixth: 60% Seventh: Only 2 trades. Not a large enough sample size. Overall: 55% discount on future picks.

You are acting like I made up this rule. I did not. I am simply informed about the existence of it while you want to discuss the righteousness of it. Here it is, in chart form:

I realize that the players performance will finalize opinions, but they certainly did not bully Morgan. He got the best of the trades he was involved in---and he seems to have done well in free agency. This is a two year process if both years are done correctly---I did not want Morgan. Changing my mind.

Valid points. This article to me explained why they might take the chance with 2 proven veteran Guards and focus limited resources elsewhere. If you sign a free agent, you spend $10m more than you are paying Corbett and Christensen. If you draft a C, you have a rookie QB on the LOS in front of Bryce. Maybe this is their only practical option, since there were many other needs that could not be staffed by currently rostered vets or rookies. For example, they wanted a "type" at RB. I said it before--if you look at RB and say, "Chuba had 900 yards behind a bad line!" that would be a great point. However, he was very weak as a pass catcher and pass blocker when he arrived--he has shown promise as a pass catcher and some growth as a pass blocker. In 2023, one site rated him the 25th best overall RB in the NFL among the top 72 "starters." https://www.nfl.com/news/rb-index-ranking-all-72-starting-running-backs-from-the-2023-nfl-season Brooks is elite at Running, receiving, and is good at blocking. We are better, and the pass catching with his YAC keeps defenses more honest that Chuba did. How many sacks came after Chuba missed his block? I dunno, but I saw it more than a few times. We could not bring in a TE to find a weapon for Bryce. We had to draft one. So we had to draft WR, RB, and TE because we had no real options. So if you look at the big picture, based on the information in the article as foundational knowledge of the C position, the fact that Corbett has never played center is not as important as his ability to play it. But yes, it is not a given and it is risky--but it is one of the few positions we could upgrade (since we signed 2 stud Gs) with players already on the roster. It is not ideal, but rebuilding a team with so many holes is impossible in one offseason. When you laid out the options at every position and looked at the available cap room, this is probably the best option for the Panthers so they can address other needs where there are no options on the roster.

First, thanks for the kind words. There are a lot of knowledgeable people here and the problem is when we get emotional we tend to go overboard--that is passion for the team. However, when we take our meds and post within 48 hours of our sessions with counselors, we tend to make sense. This center will make the PS--without a doubt, where he could push for the backup role eventually. I try to keep it between the ditches, but most people here respect each others' differences of opinions. It is interesting to me to hear others' opinions because they pull me back to reality at times. This center was a good pick. It will be interesting to see how Corbett does after this season and if they extend him (He is only 28, I think).

That blows my mind too. You know your system and the skill sets you covet--you have hours of game tape, you interview, you measure, you test, you weigh, you time--and 25% is the bar? Now, I know some teams only have 2-3 openings some years, but dang.

I look at upside and production--- XL--can he produce at a high level? I see him as boom or bust---so yes, but with cautious optimism. Brooks--the RB position is devalued and the player himself was a bit devalued, but if you consider how his running and catching (and blocking) can make this team better, there is a lot of value in a player that can upgrade your offense. Considering we got a second rounder in addition to Brooks, the return could be incredible. JT Sanders--For a fourth rounder, this guy has a high ceiling. I think the attitude about the TE class after Bowers devalued a lot of good players who could become productive starters--just not on the LaPorta, Kincaid level, but maybe a notch below. For our offense, this is better. Let''s not forget the addition that has us all hopeful--WR Jalen Coker. I think he will make the roster, contribute, and eventually (in 2025 or sooner if there is an injury) become part of the rotation.

That is correct and valid, and I def thought of it--but filling needs and building is one brick at a time. The Panthers cannot afford to miss on 75% of their day 2 and 3 picks as is the norm.

Thanks Frank. I enjoyed the video and agree we have been saying alot of the same thing-- The biggest question mark on the OL is not center--it is left tackle. This has to be Ickey's year. Sanders getting cut does not make sense. If he can look good behind a good OL, and if Brooks is going to be phased in (injury), you keep him because it makes no financial sense to cut him this year. The only reason I could see keeping Ian Thomas on the roster is goal line offense. I personally think his blocking is overrated. This guy said JT Sanders was also a good blocker--I have not seen that. However, I think Tremble and Sanders has the potential to be a good TE combo. He was hard on the CB selection in the draft. 5th round for a depth CB is fine. I am not sure what he was expecting. I think they are going to sign another former Gamecock who used to play CB soon. Finally, he is realistic about Young's year, but he is in "wait and see" mode. That is how you approach it. Cut him before building around the QB position or build around the QB position and give him another year? It is a no brainer. We are probably going to sign a free agent QB to keep on the PS when cuts are made.

We did not have a first rounder and we traded down to acquire a second rounder. That future player is not factored into the equation, so this is bullshite. We gave Bryce weapons and added a LB and CB. That is all we could do. How many draft picks will see the field regularly (beyond special teams)? A: 3. XL, Sanders, and Brooks. There is a chance all will start at some point in 2024. Not many teams WITH first rounders can say that.

I think they will be fine. They will make a mistake or two, and if it were Ryan Kalil everyone would let it go--but when Corbett snaps one low or high---the torches will be lit, the pitchforks will be grabbed, and the mob will ascend onto Mint Street.

Neither was Ryan Kalil when he played G--you have to be where your strengths are valued and your shortcomings are not.

They do. Most of the time, however, they get ahead of themselves, trying to step into the gap before the ball is out of their hands, etc. Some are low and some have fired snaps over heads. I wonder if JJ can work with them and offer some pointers? I know it is a different type of snap, but he is very consistent.

I just woke her up and told her that you said that. She laughed.