MHS831

Great question. No. We could go WR, S, or OL. Remember, Rhule was at the SR Bowl, and going from memory (which is a red flagged warning) there were several OL he liked. He has vets right now to fill the voids, but I have no idea what we will do. Do you leave Trevon Moehrig on the table to take Sam Cosmi? I do not. Rhule has been in love with Richie Grant (S, UCF) for some time. I'd rather have a T, but there is that.

Another thought: A lot of you wanted Fields, and time will tell, but Darnold was a #3 overall pick that we got for a 2022 #2 and #4. Let's give him a shot. Had we taken Fields, we would still be stuck with Jackson on the final year of his deal, Pride (bless his heart) and 2 30+ free agents who have done nothing lately. Last year, we gave up first downs on third down HALF of the time. The completion percentage against us outside the numbers was 71%. You cannot win doing that. Full stop. If we take Fields, we do not get the CB1. We might have to try to find a CB in round 2 to stop the bleeding, and hope Scott/Erving can play T. Basically, we'd still suck and Darnold would be blamed for it.

This was a necessary pick. We wanted to run more man with the CB1--do you put Jackson on Thomas? Do you let Pride take on Julio? As I said (and others as well) there were maybe 2 CB1s in this draft, depending on how you look at Farley's back and Newsome--who was not on the Surtain/Horn level. We did what we HAD to do yesterday, and came away with the CB1 with the most upside. We all knew that day 2 would be the key to the draft. So here we go.

It is frustrating, but we are doing EXACTLY what we should have done. Horn had a 30% completion rate against him last year. Our CBs had a 71% completion rate OUTSIDE THE NUMBERS!!! Teams coverted first downs on us nearly half the time 49.1%. The league average is in the 30s. The average team gets the ball for 12 possessions per game-but if you can't get off the field, they have longer possessions and you have fewer possessions. The average possession in the NFL is equal to about 2 points. Last year, the panthers pass defense was so bad, it cost them the equivalent of 4 points per game--just by allowing first downs on third down. That is three wins and 1 tie if we could only get off the field. That is how we lost games last year. We HAD to have an alpha CB--a #1 CB--to shut down the alpha WRs in the NFL--Thomas, Evans, Jones--do you think Pride was that guy? Jackson? We needed a superior athlete who was good in man / press coverage and can play zone. A tall CB. Horn was the best player we could have drafted, and it makes sense now. Go look at the remaining players for round 2 and pick me out a CB1. I will wait right here. See you in a minute. THERE AREN'T ANY. Go look at the remaining players for round 2 and pick me out a starting caliber LT--there are at least 4. Oh, and why did we not take Fields? Because you do not bury your talent before you develop it. Darnold needed a vote on confidence and we gave it to him. Sure, Fields could be better, but he may not--and then you have no QBs. Tomorrow, we will draft a LT and the village will rejoice. We may draft a S first, and if so, we will move back up into the second round to get a T. We are doing exactly what we needed to do.

There are 5 tackles on the board--- Jenkins (he can play LT) Radunz Cosmi Eichenberg W. Little We pick 8th, and there will be 2-3 WRs, a C, a S, an edge or two--expect a run on OTs, but we will have one or two from which to choose--I say Radunz, Eichenberg, Little. We might even drop back. I also predict that Atlanta may draft Mond or Mills.

I had round 2 all over him, so it was an easy oversight. Raiders? I think, going from memory--you know how good they are at drafting.

MHS831 Panther Round 2 Board 1. Elijah Moore, WR Miss. Moore is an undersized slot receiver who excels at attacking the middle of the field against zone looks. He has the burst to separate in man coverage. He's a natural hands catcher who plucks the ball out of the air. Moore's ability to make defenders miss -- plus his top-end speed -- make him a threat after the catch. WHILE I FEEL WE HAVE TO GO T, THEY MAY FEEL THAT THEY HAVE ADDRESSED IT FOR NOW WITH SCOTT AND ERVING AND THEY CAN GRAB A SENIOR BOWL T LATER TO DEVELOP. I HOPE NOT, BUT MOORE IS THE BEST PLAYER IN A NEED POSITION THAT REMAINS, IMO. 2. Teven Jenkins, T Ok St. Jenkins is a big and powerful run-blocker who can line up at either tackle spot or at guard. He has improved significantly in each of his three years as a starter. He has shorter arms and average agility for an offensive tackle, but he shows the ability to shoot his hands, has the wide frame to stay in front of his assignment and anchors well in pass protection. MY FAVORITE PLAYER STILL ON THE BOARD, I THINK HE CAN PLAY LT--JUST NOT AS WELL AS RT OR RG. 3. Trevon Moehrig S TCU Moehrig excelled in a Cover 4 heavy scheme at TCU that frequently left him on an island working against slot receivers. He's a playmaker who shows good burst breaking on the ball and good timing breaking up passes. He's an above-average open-field tackler. Moehrig was voted TCU's Special Teams Most Valuable Player by his teammates in 2018. (NOTE: I know, another defensive player…but he could make the secondary special and we could get off the field. We need a FS who can free up Chinn, Horn, Jackson, etc. IT BOTHERS ME, TO BE HONEST, BUT HE IS A PLAYER. 4. Dillion Radunz OT NDSU Radunz is an excellent athlete with average length. He does a good job of staying in front of his assignments in pass protection. He has the foot speed to excel in a zone-heavy scheme and does a good job of climbing to the second level. He is tough but needs to get stronger. (Maybe not right away, but he could be the next Gross) 5. Samuel Cosmi, OT Tex Cosmi has good size, is light on his feet and has experience playing on the left and right sides. He tends to get his hands inside. He has the upper-body strength to lock out and does an above-average job of mirroring in pass protection. Cosmi frequently drives defensive linemen off the ball in the run game. TO BE HONEST, HE SCARES ME A BIT--THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT HIM THAT I JUST DO NOT LIKE--BUT SINCE HE HAS ALL THE TOOLS AND I CAN'T VERBALIZE MY CONCERNS, HE IS #5. 6. Creed Humphrey, C Ok Humphrey is a former high school wrestler who locks on and locks out when he gets his hands inside in pass protection. He has excellent change-of-direction skill and anchors well. Humphrey is an effective zone blocker with outstanding foot speed, and he's smooth climbing to the second level in the run game. –(we are going to need a smart, effective C moving forward--Humphrey is probably my second favorite OL on the board behind Jenkins. 7. Davis Mills, QB Stanford Mills has a good frame, strong arm and adequate mobility. His mechanics are a little inconsistent, but he's accurate when he gets the ball out in rhythm and on time. He started just 11 games at the college level. He locks onto receivers at times and the consistency of his decision-making needs to improve. (Develop behind Darnold for a season or 2--for those of you that think Darnold may not make it, why not bring in a developing QB?) 8. Kellen Mond, QB Tex A&M Mond has adequate size, excellent arm strength and good release quickness. He flashes the ability to lead receivers to yards after the catch on shorter throws, yet his accuracy and touch are streaky. Mond often appears mechanical inside the pocket, but he has good foot speed and shows the ability to extend plays. I REALLY LIKE THIS KID--AND I THINK BRADY COULD WORK WONDERS WITH HIM... 9. Nick Bolton, LB Missouri Bolton plays even faster than his timed speed thanks to his instincts. He gets over the top of blockers and shoots gaps. He chases with great effort, and his open-field tackling is outstanding. He shows good range in underneath coverage and flashes the ability to find a crease as a pass-rusher. We really need a stud we can count on. Perryman looks good on paper, but he looks natural on the exercise bike. 10. Walker Little, OT Stan Little has the massive frame and quickness to develop into an effective run-blocker at the NFL level. He needs to play with better leverage and get stronger. He flashes some snap in his punch and has quick feet, but he has adequate length and speed rushers give him some problems in pass protection. He hasn't played a live game since Week 1 of the 2019 season (knee injury, then opted out of the 2020 season. Little could be the steal of the draft--he really has some solid tools and mechanics.

Actually, I had a 100% accuracy rating on the picks I got right. Not bragging though.

Pissing me off, it is. Looks like an emu leaving a nail parlor.

And they can find OL in the third-sixth. Senior bowl had a lot of those late-round players--a lot of them. I am also guessing they think we are OK at T and G for now... There are 2-3 WRs who could grab the attention of Fitterer.

Scary---I agree. We could say, "Lets have the best secondary in the NFL and work on the OL in the third-sixth rounds. Not what I would do, but Moehrig is special.

Can somebody get that sissy-ass photo of Clausen over at the right taken down? Enough!!

I bet he is atop their board. However, if they take another defensive player, if I am Brady, I punch Fitterer and Rhule in the chops and walk out. That is what I do-

Probable picks: We could take a WR named Moore, a C, a S, or a G, but if they neglect the OL after signing Darnold, its on them. Radunz has all the tools to be great in time, and I think Walker Little is a sleeper (due to his injury/not playing--not sure about his knee or mind), and Liam Eichenberg is solid, but has a limited Ceiling. Cosmi? I hear he is overrated, but I can't see a problem.

Opponents had a 71% completion rate outside the numbers in 2020. Last in the league. They got off the field 31st in the league, allowing opponents and average of over 13 possessions per game, to their own 11 possessions per game. ' Yeah. We needed a CB1 MORE than a T.

Problem? send your cv to mint street. They could use your genius.

where the hell did you come from? Trolling a bit?

I agree, and there could be 3 FS at the top of the second round. I am not certain that they think we need LT as much as we do. However, we cant draft Defense all the damn time.

OK.

Have picked out my image yet? Be gentle.

Invalid point--, if you give the opponents 2 more possessions per game because you can't get off the field, and the average possession is 2 points, then that is 4 points by not getting off the field. If the Panthers had eliminated this problem, they would have won 4 more games---regardless of what the offense did nor did not do.

I kinda want Walker Little. Has not played in 2 years and was injured. But was on a first round trek

31st in the NFL in getting off the field on 3rd down.

If he could tackle.

what were our needs? 1. CB1 (best 2 in top 10 picks) 2. LT (CB1 not there in second) 3. WR (LT not there in third)